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Offline ed lundquist

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58 Rebuild
« on: January 07, 2022, 04:42:51 AM »
The parts for this come from the first pistol I ever built. I got real tired of looking at it, so a couple months ago I tore it down and recently started this. Added keys and did away with the sideplate also am adding sights.












Will shape the grip to my liking as I go and likely loose alot of the "umbrella handle". Probably add a nosecap and an inlay or three, feeling nautical. Nice to fix ones' mistakes, at least some of them :) Lots of work yet, thanks for looking.
« Last Edit: January 07, 2022, 04:48:46 AM by ed lundquist »

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Re: 58 Rebuild
« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2022, 04:49:57 AM »
Amazing!  Will be watching this closely!

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Re: 58 Rebuild
« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2022, 06:30:33 AM »
Is the barrel bronze?
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Re: 58 Rebuild
« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2022, 07:46:01 AM »
Ed Rayl barrel, "Naval Brass", 70% copper, 30% zink. I believe this is correct, ask Mr. Rayl he will know for sure.

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Re: 58 Rebuild
« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2022, 07:56:53 AM »
You don't see many that's for sure.
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Re: 58 Rebuild
« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2022, 01:15:49 AM »
That is a REALLY cool project, Ed. Looking GREAT, so far.
Daryl

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Offline ed lundquist

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Re: 58 Rebuild
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2022, 03:57:17 AM »
Getting further along, shaping stock and moldings, inlet key escutcheons and trimmed keys. Will change nose a bit and need to give my hand a bit more pinkey room. Happy so far. Thanks for comments.



The ramrod is not for this pistol, it was just handy.

Offline Bob Gerard

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Re: 58 Rebuild
« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2022, 04:38:08 AM »
That looks great!!!
I like it without a nose cap (unless it would be ebony or a Rosewood or something similar)... I think a brass nose cap would look funny, with that forward barrel key close to the muzzle.
« Last Edit: January 11, 2022, 04:42:52 AM by Bob Gerard »

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Re: 58 Rebuild
« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2022, 09:03:33 PM »
real nice pistol Ed. I plan on building a pistol at some point I hope mine comes out looking as good as yours.
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Re: 58 Rebuild
« Reply #9 on: January 13, 2022, 03:18:35 AM »
Oh yeah - looking great, Ed. I was wondering if the sweep to the front at the bottom of the grip was too much? Of course, it's all how it feels to you.
My mitt might be too big for that grip, I guess, it what I was thinking.
Daryl

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Offline Keith Zimmerman

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Re: 58 Rebuild
« Reply #10 on: January 13, 2022, 03:22:26 AM »
Looks great!

Offline ed lundquist

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Re: 58 Rebuild
« Reply #11 on: January 13, 2022, 03:58:37 AM »
Thanks guys, it's coming along pretty well. Daryl, the last shaping I do is the grip, I keep handling and shaping till it feels right. Made more pinky room today, funny that when I compare guns they are remarkably similar, reaching some consistency. This piece of wood has really great grain flow and curl, I'm hesitant to do any more without letting it simmer in my head awhile. Shaped the nose, installed the front sight and finished the ramrod today, waiting on a triggerguard to compare with the ones I have and then decide. Want to try it out soon and do some finish samples. Thanks for looking, more pics to follow,

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Re: 58 Rebuild
« Reply #12 on: January 13, 2022, 05:03:58 AM »
That looks like it’ll be a keeper Ed

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Re: 58 Rebuild
« Reply #13 on: January 13, 2022, 06:01:50 AM »









Nose shaped, front and rear sights, captured keys, following grain in grip. Still a bit more shaping after the guard goes in.

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Re: 58 Rebuild
« Reply #14 on: January 22, 2022, 07:35:23 PM »
Really nice work, Ed.  Making a real treasure there.
I almost always have a pistol or three that I work on when I get tired of the bigger stuff.  And you have given me plenty of ideas and inspirations.  I particularly like the color that you used, it goes great with the brass furniture and bronze barrel.
I have one barrel (and BA lock) that is nicely browned, and have started a Deringer-type stock for it.  First time with the BA locks, and noticed that usually a silver inlay is made by the nipple to protect the wood.  Glad I keep silver flat stuff in stock.

Thanks for showing us how it is properly done.
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Offline ed lundquist

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Re: 58 Rebuild
« Reply #15 on: January 23, 2022, 02:48:55 AM »
Thanks Craig, the color is Kibler tannic acid followed by iron nitrate, I don't use a stain, just adjust the previous and do lots of samples. The wood usually has its way and I'm not complaining. After heating I wet sand with mineral spirits till I'm close to what I like, then I oil and sand gently with 400 grit a couple times and then use a varnish oil to get a desired gloss and a harder finish. I decided to go with a plainer look although I may checker this after the finish has time to cure, it feels so good in the hand and helps with my grip. Never built a back action or a derringer, where does one find parts or do you make them yourself?  Here are some bitter pics, I'm pretty pleased.







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Re: 58 Rebuild
« Reply #16 on: January 23, 2022, 03:24:47 AM »
That's cool! Lotsa brass barreled English pistols in the book from Track- with barrel wall dimensions.
I was shocked by some wall thicknesses in the waist of the swamped barrels.
Daryl

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Re: 58 Rebuild
« Reply #17 on: January 23, 2022, 03:43:46 AM »
Daryl, when I decided that I did not want to cut dovetails into this barrel instead filed flats fore and aft that would allow the keys to sit on the median line of the gun. The notches go to zero on the mid end and have a tiny dovetail on the fat end. I wanted the keys to be on the same plane but did not want to intrude on the barrel. Worked out fine I believe. Soldered the lugs and they are there to stay. Conversations with you and Taylor had some input on the rear sight position and I think it's winner. A little chilly to shoot today but as soon as I get the chance...Bang!

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Re: 58 Rebuild
« Reply #18 on: January 23, 2022, 05:59:21 AM »
came out great Ed,
Rob

Offline Daniel Coats

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Re: 58 Rebuild
« Reply #19 on: January 23, 2022, 06:47:58 AM »
Can't stop looking at it. I like that pistol!!
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Re: 58 Rebuild
« Reply #20 on: January 23, 2022, 01:27:37 PM »
Yeah - that is nice. The rear sight location is perfect. Absolutely no effect on the gun's integrity. Well done, Ed.
You did a really nice job on this pistol.
Buck and ball were especially pleasing at 12 yards, with my .54 rifled pistol.
Daryl

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Re: 58 Rebuild
« Reply #21 on: January 23, 2022, 10:32:57 PM »
Just beautiful Ed.  I would be very proud to own it, but way prouder if I had created it.   I like the amount of embellishment, and it compliments the lines.  Delightful finish.  What a pistol.   God Bless,   Marc