Hi Mike: Take a closer look at the two photos of the "cased longrifle" in the locked thread. Your answer to your question is found there. That rifle is completely relief carved in the phots that I posted. Some of the smallest and delicate carving I have ever done on a longrifle is to be found on that rifle and in those pictures. Failing that, I invite you to come and see the gun in person at DSC in Jan. 11-14. 2024. I will see you good for your entrance fee. My pleasure. Hugh Toenjes