My first target, earlier in the month did not need to be submitted, it would have been a zero, nothing in the black (how embarrassing). Also, I knew it was open sight, hence my comment that my 2 scores shown are technically zero. Matters not to me, still a reason to go out and shoot. My old T/C .50 Hawken has open sights, but I switched everything I had and currently build to peep, since I just cannot get a good focus on open iron. It prevents me from attending any shoots or events, but only helps me when trying to hit something. Well, that and being able to steady my aim on a tree, post or bench.