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Offline JBJ

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Re: November Postal Match
« Reply #25 on: November 08, 2023, 03:23:16 PM »
At 80, my "wobble" aiming has reached silly proportions. Now, if I can remember where I put my glasses!  :)

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Re: November Postal Match
« Reply #26 on: November 12, 2023, 01:31:38 AM »
Got out today with Taylor. I have only 2 targets to post.
.682" ball and 14 ounce denim (.034") 90gr. 2F Schutzen
25 yards standing unsupported.
Appears to be a 48 3X to me. I used an underlay on the second photo to show ball orientation.
pulled my second shot WAYY out.





here's my other target, Not sure what it is, could be a 49 1X or maybe 48 1X or 47 1X.




« Last Edit: November 12, 2023, 02:52:03 AM by Daryl »
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Re: November Postal Match
« Reply #27 on: November 12, 2023, 02:27:52 AM »
We just got to the range and started to set up, and it started to rain.  So we shot our first target a little too fast, but I discovered my front sight had been tapped off it's witness mark.  So after tapping it over to the mark, and shooting another target, I shot much better.  Temperature just above freezing, and light rain falling...wind from the left upon occasion.
I used my 10.8 pound Hawken .62 cal this time, and it took a little bit of a re-learning curve, from lack of practice with this rifle.  Though I am not competing this month, since I'm sponsoring the match, I still want to shoot, so I post my targets for interest sake only.  I score them 46 and 49 3X.  I'm going to try again hopefully, to replace that 46, and to add a third target for the aggregate.
My load:  .613" pure lead ball from a Lyman .610" mold, .024" cotton denim patch, Ballistol/water lube 1:10, 86 gr. FFg GOEX, #11 Remington caps, standing offhand (unsupported) at 25 laser'd yards..



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Re: November Postal Match
« Reply #28 on: November 12, 2023, 01:07:57 PM »
Pesky fliers, good shooting D & T!
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Re: November Postal Match
« Reply #29 on: November 12, 2023, 03:44:05 PM »
Some fine targets by both Daryl and Taylor! Wow

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Re: November Postal Match
« Reply #30 on: November 13, 2023, 12:14:04 AM »
Flyers are from pulling the trigger when the sights are not on the X ring.  Fatigue, blurry vision, wind, watery eyes, all contribute to flyers.  You can't hope it into the X ring...you've got to shoot it there.
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Re: November Postal Match
« Reply #31 on: November 13, 2023, 01:28:03 PM »
Flyers are from pulling the trigger when the sights are not on the X ring.  Fatigue, blurry vision, wind, watery eyes, all contribute to flyers.  You can't hope it into the X ring...you've got to shoot it there.
I was being nice.
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Re: November Postal Match
« Reply #32 on: November 13, 2023, 05:38:36 PM »
Real windy this weekend here, so I didn't bother shooting paper. But I got a new guy out behind some muzzleloaders and had him ringing some steel at 50 yards with my rifle, so I'll definitely count that as a win for muzzleloading.
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Re: November Postal Match
« Reply #33 on: November 13, 2023, 10:09:41 PM »
Flyers are from pulling the trigger when the sights are not on the X ring.  Fatigue, blurry vision, wind, watery eyes, all contribute to flyers.  You can't hope it into the X ring...you've got to shoot it there.
I was being nice.

...and I appreciate your compliment on our shoooting!
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Re: November Postal Match
« Reply #34 on: November 13, 2023, 10:34:05 PM »
No argument from me, on that..
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Re: November Postal Match
« Reply #35 on: November 14, 2023, 01:08:33 AM »
Went out today between rain storms and shot 4 more targets. 3 of which aren't worth posting but one came in at a 49 2X. This target #6 (49 2X) should change my aggregate score to a 148 7X when added to the previous target #4 (50 3X) and my earlier target #3 (49 2X).

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Re: November Postal Match
« Reply #36 on: November 14, 2023, 04:55:45 AM »
Nicely done Mike, and I concur.  Have edited your score to 148 7X.
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Re: November Postal Match
« Reply #37 on: November 16, 2023, 03:27:11 AM »
Shot the target yesterday, but will not submit a picture, I am to wobbly off hand. The only place on the page without a hole was the black, ha!

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Re: November Postal Match
« Reply #38 on: November 19, 2023, 02:51:51 AM »
Here's my first entry to the postal match that isn't 110% embarrassing:)

I believe my 65gr load is on the money with my sights.... But controlling the flinch combined with off hand wobble is tough.

I completely missed twice when using the trigger unset. Then I decided to try it set and it got much better by the 3rd target.

0.570 ball
0.0195 bull denim w mink oil
65gr 2f schuetzen
 







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Re: November Postal Match
« Reply #39 on: November 19, 2023, 04:01:27 AM »
Good that you got out and Shot. No one gets better, without practice. To get better, one must get out and practice with a purpose.
not just shooting Willy Nilly.  I don't know "him" personally but have attempted it and showed no improvement for the minor effort it took. ;D
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Re: November Postal Match
« Reply #40 on: November 20, 2023, 03:36:52 AM »
HiUintas:  thanks for joining in!  I scored your targets as follows:  23, 34, 41= 98  See, you got better as you shot more targets.  I'd like to see you keep going.  Fellow shooters; there's lots of time left in NOvemeber to get your targets in so please make an effort to get out and give McGuire a run for his money.
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Re: November Postal Match
« Reply #41 on: November 20, 2023, 06:42:41 AM »
Thanks, Taylor! I didn't think to add up my score  ::)

I love to shoot and want to get out as much as possible. It's once a week max for me, when I don't have a hunting season open, but I try to make sure it is quality practice so I do improve. I've been doing a good bit of dry firing with a wood flint, trying to get used to seeing the hammer fall. I might also need to go through some flashing in the pan without a load in the bore to get used to the flash as well.

I also learned to resharpen my flints to get more shots, and put some teeth on my cock top jaw with a graver so that the flint and leather won't slip out when it's not a perfectly shaped flint.

It's funny.... With my bolt rifles I can shoot extremely well all the time including field positions. This is a completely different game... A fulfilling one!!

I'll hopefully get to put up another couple of targets this Wednesday.

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Re: November Postal Match
« Reply #42 on: November 23, 2023, 02:13:27 AM »
Another few targets. #1 and #2 are 36 and 31, respectively. #3 isn't scoreable since it's not the official target, although it's nearly the same.






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Re: November Postal Match
« Reply #43 on: November 24, 2023, 10:31:05 PM »
I only had time for one target today, but Iíll try to get two more posted by Sunday. This is my second time firing my .32 and probably need to spend some more time developing a load, but this is my first muzzleloader so just getting the hang of loading from a bag is enough for me right now. For this target I was shooting:

.315 ball
.018 patch lubed with mink oil
20 gr Goex 3FG

If I can add right this is a 46 1x:


My rifle:

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Re: November Postal Match
« Reply #44 on: November 24, 2023, 11:33:18 PM »
Brushy spoons: yes your addition is correct in my eyes. I also love shooting my .32 if not shooting too far or in windy conditions. My load that has worked great is .310 round balls, a .020 canvas patch and 35 grains of GOEX 3F with 4F in the pan. It should shoot better groups than that but might just need to be "shot in" as they say.
Good luck with it and keep shooting it.
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Re: November Postal Match
« Reply #45 on: November 25, 2023, 12:06:44 AM »
It should shoot better groups than that but might just need to be "shot in" as they say.
Good luck with it and keep shooting it.
"Muskrat" Mike

I think itís more the shooter that needs some work than the rifle, my offhand shooting is pretty rusty. The first time I shot it off a bench it was grouping pretty well, way better than the target I posted at least  ;D
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Re: November Postal Match
« Reply #46 on: November 25, 2023, 02:50:25 AM »
Bushyspoons, you are doing GREAT! - new rifle, working up loads. I found my .32, from a rest at 25 yards would put 5 into a tiny hole, maybe .45 calibre just using 20gr. 3F GOEX.
I found that load, while accurate at 25 yards, would not hold smaller than about 2 1/2" at 50yards. I could never do better with that rifle at 50yards than 1 1/2". That load required
35gr. 3F GOEX. I was using 2 different balls in the rifle, and a water based lube as well as Track's mink oil. The Mink oil needed 40gr. to get the same accuracy as 35gr. with a water
based lube. Balls used, were .311" and .320". The patches were usually 10 ounce Denim, in those days, it was US made and .0225" thick. I also shoot a mattress ticking that I measured
compressed in calipers at .0235". Now, much depends on how a person measures the cloth & which tool. I have 3 sets of calipers and each measures the same material differently.
I assume this is due to slightly different anvil widths. I measure the new 10 ounce denim as .021". That material shoots well in all of my rifles.
Daryl

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Re: November Postal Match
« Reply #47 on: November 26, 2023, 12:55:35 AM »
Highunintas:  thanks for upgrading your targets.  Your official score to date is as follows:  31, 36, and 41 = 108 2X
Brushyspoons:  thanks for joining in on this months match.  Your score is confirmed at 46 1X.
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Re: November Postal Match
« Reply #48 on: November 29, 2023, 09:17:43 PM »
Apologies, between hunting and weather I haven't had the chance to go to the range. Hunting season is over now, now I just need the weather to cooperate.

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Re: November Postal Match
« Reply #49 on: November 30, 2023, 12:53:43 AM »
Like Jakob, I have been busy filling Tags. Tried hunting squirrels in the morning, but the cold and the wind kept them holed up.
It wasn't raining and the sun was out. I was planning to shoot these targets in the afternoon, wind or no wind.
Shot out of the bag out in the open at a lasered 25 yards. Temperature in the high 30s F. Wind out of the South 9 to 15 mph.
First time I have shot this rifle since Arizona's squirrel opening day on 29 September.
Could have done worse. The second target was interrupted by lunch and BS.
Rifle has a Getz 38 inch B weight .40 cal. barrel. I used .395 balls, Jo Ann's #40 drill with bear oil, over 50 grains Dupont 3f.

First target 49-1x, second target 44, third target 49-1x.



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