Rayle double rifle barrels

[t.caster]

The latest Muzzleloader mag had Peter Alexander talking about Ed's double rifle & smoothie barrels in a project he has going. Sounds pretty neat! Anyone else have experience with these barrels???
He was using swamped .54s and has them put together and regulated to 75 yds. for you. I imagine they aren't cheap done this way!
They got my gears spinnin!

[Mike Brooks]

The latest Muzzleloader mag had Peter Alexander talking

Now there's a reason not to subscribe to a magazine if I ever heard one.
 I would suppose those barrels are priced similar to his double shotgun barrels.

[T*O*F]

The latest Muzzleloader mag had Peter Alexander talking about Ed's double rifle & smoothie barrels

I didn't realize that talking magazines existed.  Does each page have one of those chips like you find in novelty birthday cards?

Anyone else have experience with these barrels???

I had Ed make me a set of them back in '98.  Maybe I planted the seeds of innovation back then.

He was using swamped .54s and has them put together and regulated to 75 yds. for you.

[Don Getz]

Not doubting your word, but "regulated", wow, not sure how he would do that out of the gun.      I have seen his double
barrel sets and they do look nice.    I have done a few in my lifetime and appreciate what he goes thru to make thses sets, it's a lot of work.   .....Don

[Bill of the 45th]

Ed had a set on his table yesterday(they may still be there today ) at the Southern rifle show in Norris.  They rally looked nice, and knowing his work they are great.  The Show is great, took lots of picks, and will post soon, so some can put faces to names.

Bill

[Daryl]

He was using swamped .54s and has them put together and regulated to 75 yds. for you. I imagine they aren't cheap done this way!
They got my gears spinnin!

Don - the bolded words are key here. As far as regulation goes, the word means to shoot and alter if needed.  If they have been breeched, shot and 'regulated' then great. That is what drives up the cost of truley regulated guns - it is time consuming and costly due to that.

[northmn]

A gunsmith I learned a few things from made a few dollars by turning down 58 cal Numrich barrels and setting them inside the barrel of a Navy arms 12 bore double such that the user had a 12 bore barrel on one side and a 58 on the other.  He made several of them for hunters in a shotgun only zone.  ML's were popular in his area as this was before the modern slugs in rifled barrels used today.  A ML is superior to a Foster slug.

DP

[t.caster]

The article said he brazed the barrels for a few inches back at the breech, then soldered in a wedge betw. the muzzles, shot them each a adjusted the muzzle wedge as (many times) needed. I don't know how much playing with loads he did, but if he got them hitting the same spot at 75 yds. that's a darn good start for a hunting rifle!
And a LOT of hard work!

Talking magazine? Maybe I was just reading it outloud....dunno?

[Daryl]

That's the only way to regulate barrels, Tom. Thanks for clearing that his method.  Yes - it usually takes a lot of shooting and sometimes a lot of different loads as barrel impacts can change with just a change of patch thickness.  Elevation as well changes. One of the most difficult aspects of shooting 2 barrels, is keeping the barrels absoltuely parallel - ie; flat side to side. Any upward tilt will send that shot high and crossing, or lower tilt will send it diverging and low.

[Majorjoel]

I gave up on the notion of building a double rifle a couple years back. It is much easier (and cheaper) to build singles and just take two along into the bush. The second carried by my trusty guide Tonto.

[northmn]

For a while Kodiak used to build a rifle with 2 rear sights to solve the regulation problems.

DP

[Daryl]

I have one, DP - lucked out in finding a load that printed both barrels into a group at 50 yards with slight separation, left, left, and right, right- abotu perfect, in other words.  It took about 2 pounds of powder and 3 days of 4hour testing per day to find it.

When I started out, the barrels were crossing about 1 1/5" at 50 yards, and shooting 2" high to low between the barrels. it now shoots to one sight with both barrels, and allows the second sight dovetail to be used for a 140 to 150 yard sight.

[t.caster]

I've got one of those Kodiak Doubles in .58 cal. they have a pretty fast twist, so not too good with roundballs. But to be fair, I never really spent much time sighting it in and trying different combinations. I tried a few conicals in it but it was bruising!
I'd be willing to part with it for around $400 or BO. It hasn't been shot much at all!

[Daryl]

Here's mine. Dropped the ridiculous cheek piece + refinish + buing bright parts.