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Offline Majorjoel

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Long List of Long's
« on: October 15, 2010, 05:00:09 PM »
I picked up a copy of "Selected Articles from the KRA Bulletin""Volume 1-30" from Henry Bishop at the CLA show in Lexington back in August. I have to say that it has been very hard to put this book down since starting it! Over the last few years here on the ALR forum there has been quite a bit of discussion and interest about the gunsmith Joe Long from Snyder Co. Ron Gabel made a list of Early Riflemakers of Snyder and Union Counties, PA which is on page 170 of this book. Included in this list are many members of the Long family which I will name here; George P. Long- Beaver Springs, Snyder Co. Percussion period......James Long- Beaver Springs, Snyder Co. Percussion period......Jesse Long- Beaver Springs, Snyder Co. Percussion period.....Joseph Long-Beaver Springs, Snyder Co. Flint and percussion period......Josiah Long- Beaver Springs, Snyder Co. Percussion period.....William H. Long-Beaver Springs, Snyder Co. Percussion period.....Ralph Long= Beavertown, Snyder Co. Percussion period.  This group brings up a lot of questions for me. First of all I know many of Joe's rifles are either unsigned or signed with just initials. I do not know the family relationships here so would like to learn how all of these gunsmiths are related. It would be interesting to see photos or written descriptions of rifles made by each member. To know who apprenticed to who and if work is similar or different. Now getting back to Joe who is the most admired here. How do we know the rifle was made by him or one of the other family members with the same initials???
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Re: Long List of Long's
« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2010, 02:28:47 AM »
CaptJoel,

Below you'll find the biographical information I accumulated regarding the various Long gunsmiths from Union & Snyder County, PA.  Regarding Joe Long (1799-1872), the most comprehensive biography I know of can be found in Edith Cooper's book entitled "The Kentucky Rifle & Me".  Lots of photos and drawings of Joe Long rifles and a pistol.  I hope others will come forth will additional information regarding this interesting clan of gunsmiths. 

Mark Loudenslager 

George P. Long    
Born: January 28, 1821 Pennsylvania
Died: April 10, 1915 New Berlin, Union County, Pennsylvania
Buried: Union Cemetery, New Berlin, Pennsylvania
     
George P. Long was a gunsmith in Union / Snyder County from about 1843 to 1900.
George P. Long was listed as a gunsmith in the Union County tax records in Centre Township in 1844, 1845, and in Adamsburg Township (now Beaver Springs) as a gunsmith in 1845, 1846 and 1848.  The author was unable to determine how or if George P. Long was related to Joseph Long, prominent gunsmith from Beaver Springs in Snyder County.  Dalas Ewing reported a large, heavy barreled match rifle signed “G. P. Long”. 

1850 Federal Census, Pennsylvania, Union County, West Beaver Township, p. 135.
George Long, age ?? , occupation “Farmer”, b. PA
Note: Living near gunsmith Isaac Unangst.

1860 Federal Census, PA, Snyder Co., West Beaver Twp., Beaver Springs P.O., p. 14.
George Long, age ??, occupation “Farmer”, b. PA

1870 Federal Census, Pennsylvania, Union County, Union Township, Winfield P.O.
George Long, age 50, occupation “Farmer”, b. PA; Sophia, age 51; Robert, age 18; August, age 15; Alvilda, age 11

1880 Federal Census, Pennsylvania, Union Co., New Berlin Borough, Dist. 164, p. 574.
George Long, age 59, occupation “Gunsmith”, b. PA; Sophia, age 60; Sarah, age 21.

1900 Federal Census, Pennsylvania, Union Co., New Berlin Borough, Dist. 197, p. 276.
George P. Long, age 79, occupation “Gunsmith”, b. ??. 
 

James Long
Born:   1825
Died:   1887

James Long has been identified by Ron Gabel as a gunsmith that worked in Snyder County, Pennsylvania during the percussion period ca. 1860.  The author has been unable to find any further information regarding this gunsmith.
Find a reference or delete.


James H. Long
Born:   1846
Died:   July 29, 1927 West Beaver Township, Snyder County, Pennsylvania
Buried: New Cemetery, Beaver Springs, Snyder County, Pennsylvania

James H. Long was the son of gunsmith Joseph Long.  James Long is listed as a gunsmith in at least a couple reference books.  The author has found no records that indicate that James H. Long ever worked more than part-time at the gunsmith trade.  Dalas Ewing reported that “older residents of the Beaver Springs area recalled James Long being a merchant and a part-time gunsmith.  He made a few late percussion rifles.”
Any census records?

Jesse Long
Born:   Unknown
Died:   Unknown

Jesse Long is listed as a gunsmith in the 1855 tax records for Beavertown in Beaver Township (later Adams Township), Snyder County.

Gluckman identifies a “J. Long” as a gunsmith working in Yeagertown, Mifflin County, Pennsylvania ca. 1865-1886.


Joseph “Joe” Long
Born:   September 18, 1799 New Berlin, Union County, Pennsylvania
Died:   May 8, 1872 Beaver Springs, Beaver Township, Snyder County, Pennsylvania
Buried: Old Cemetery, Beaver Springs, Beaver Township, Snyder County, Pennsylvania

Joseph Long was one of the most prolific longrifle makers from Snyder County, Pennsylvania.  His existing rifles are excellent examples of the “Snyder County” school of gun making.  He worked in White Deer Township and later in nearby Beaver Springs in Beaver Township.  Joseph Long’s father was also named Joseph Long.  The gunsmith’s father was a Revolutionary War veteran and a shoemaker by trade.  It is unknown where Joseph Long learned the gunsmith trade.  T. J. Cooper, well known Snyder County Kentucky Rifle collector and dealer, believed that Joe Long learned the trade from someone in the Milton, Pennsylvania area.  Joseph Long is listed in the Union County tax records as a gunsmith in Adamsburgh (now Beaver Springs) from 1829 to 1838.  He is listed in the tax records from 1839 to 1871 as a gunsmith in Beaver Township (now Spring Township).  When he initially came to Adamsburgh he was a tenant on land owned by Jonas Richard. 

Joseph Long was also quite active in local public affairs.  Over the years he held several offices of public trust indicating that he was a highly respected citizen in the community.  He was the Corner for Union County in 1837.  He was a tax assessor for Beaver Township in 1843.  In 1857 records indicate that he was the Justice of the Peace for Beaver Township.         

Sometime in the early 1820’s Joesph Long married Elizabeth Benner, a native of New Berlin, Pennyslvania.  They had at least nine children; five sons and four daughters.  Their sons Josiah, William, and James were also known to have worked as gunsmiths, at least part-time.

Many of Joseph Long’s rifles are equipped with a distinctive “football” shaped sideplate.  His patchbox designs typically incorporated a variation of the “Q” shaped finial.  Often he decorated his rifles with nicely done incised carving.  In addition to longrifles, Joe Long also made swivel-breech rifles and pistols.  He signed his rifles in several different ways.  T. J. Cooper believed that he signed guns that he particularly liked with his full signature in script lettering “Joseph Long”.  Others were signed “J. L.”, or “J. Long”, or “Jos. Long”.  He was also known to have made his own percussion locks.  He signed locks that he made with his initials.  Joseph Long did not do much engraving on his rifles.  At least one pistol made by Joseph Long is known to exist.  After the Civil War the need for muzzleloading rifles declined.  Joseph Long’s work consisted mostly of repairing firearms.  He also did shoe repair work.  For detailed photos of Joe Long’s rifles and additional information about him see Edith Cooper’s (T. J. Cooper’s wife) book, “The Kentucky Rifle and Me”.  Much of the information here was taken from this reference document.  A nice example of a Joseph Long rifle is on display at the Muncy Historical Society Museum. 

1850 Federal Census, Pennsylvania, Union County, Beaver Township
Joe Long, age 48, occupation “Gunsmith”, b. PA; Elizabeth, age 41; Josiah, age 22; Mary A., age 20; Sarah M., age 19; Henry G., age 15; William H., age 14; Samuel E., age 12; Lucy G., age 7; James H., age 5; Harriet G., age 3.

1860 Federal Census, PA, Snyder Co., Beaver Twp., Beaver Springs P.O., p. 59
Joseph Long, age 60, occupation “Gunsmith”, b. PA; Elizabeth, age 52; William, age 24, occupation “Gunsmith”; Samuel, age 21, occupation “Blacksmith”; Lucy, age 17; James, age 14; Jane, age 12; John Kline, age 7.

1870 Federal Census, PA, Snyder Co., Beaver Twp., Beaver Springs P.O., p. 44
Joseph Long, age 70, occupation “Gun-smith”, b. PA; Elizabeth, age 60; Howard Kline, age 17, occupation “Domestic Servant”; Mary Wagner, age 15, occupation “Domestic Servant”

   
Josiah B. Long
Born:   June 8, 1828 Adamsburg (now Beaver Springs), Beaver Twp., Union Co., PA    
Died:   August 30, 1855 Beaver Township, Snyder County, Pennsylvania
Buried: Beavertown Cemetery, Beaver Township, Snyder County, Pennsylvania

Josiah B. Long was the oldest of gunsmith Joseph Long’s five sons.  He died at the young age of twenty seven of causes that are unknown to the author.  He listed his occupation as “Gunsmith” on the Federal Census for 1850 when he was residing in the home of his father.  Josiah Long married Sarah A. Aigler on July 15, 1851.  Sarah was born in March of 1829 in Beaver Township.  They had two children; Lydia, born 1852 and Millard, born August 1854.  In 1855, Josiah gave his occupation as “Miner” in the tax records for Franklin Township in Snyder County.  Franklin Township is just east of Beaver Township.  Mining was a very dangerous occupation in the mid 19th century. The author has seen one rifle signed “J. B. L.” is inscribed script on the top barrel flat of a very nice rifle.  This rifle looked a lot like signed rifles made by gunsmith Joseph Long.   

1850 Federal Census, Pennsylvania, Union County, Beaver Township
Joe Long, age 48, occupation “Gunsmith”, b. PA; Elizabeth, age 41; Josiah, age 22, occupation “????”; Mary A., age 20; Sarah M., age 19; Henry G., age 15; William H., age 14; Samuel E., age 12; Lucy G., age 7; James H., age 5; Harriet G., age 3.


William Harrison Long
Born:   October 19, 1836 Beaver Springs, Beaver Twp., Snyder County, Pennsylvania
Died:   Between 1900 -1910 probably Adamsburg, Centre County, Pennsylvania 

William H. Long was a son of gunsmith Joseph Long from Beaver Springs, PA.  William worked as a gunsmith in his father’s shop in Beaver Springs for many years ca. 1859-1867.  He is listed as such in the Beaver Township (now Spring Township) tax records as a gunsmith in 1859, 1860, 1861, 1862, 1863, 1864, and 1865.  He married Sarah J. McAulay in Miflin County, PA on November 28, 1866.  He then relocated to Milroy in Armagh Township, Mifflin County, Pennsylvania.  William Long is listed in the tax records for Decatur Township in Mifflin County, Pennsylvania in 1869, 1871, 1874, 1878, and 1880.  By 1898, William was working as a farmer and part-time gunsmith in Jacksonville, Centre County, Pennsylvania.  William Long was found listed as a “Gunsmith and General Farmer” residing in Jacksonville in Centre County, ca. 1898.
Ref. “CPI” Beers, 1898, p. 134.  Dillon listed William Long as a gunsmith residing in Milroy, Mifflin County, PA.  Ref, “The Kentucky Rifle” by Dillon.  Dalas Ewing and James Rothrock stated that they had never seen a signed rifle that could be attributed to William Long. 

1850 Federal Census, Pennsylvania, Union County, Beaver Township
Joe Long, age 48, occupation “Gunsmith”, b. PA; Elizabeth, age 41; Josiah, age 22; Mary A., age 20; Sarah M., age 19; Henry G., age 15; William H., age 14; Samuel E., age 12; Lucy G., age 7; James H., age 5; Harriet G., age 3.

1860 Federal Census, PA, Snyder Co., Beaver Twp., Beaver Springs P.O., p. 59
Joseph Long, age 60, occupation “Gunsmith”, b. PA; Elizabeth, age 52; William, age 24, occupation “Gunsmith”; Samuel, age 21, occupation “Blacksmith”; Lucy, age 17; James, age 14; Jane, age 12; John Kline, age 7.

1870 Federal Census, Pennsylvania, Mifflin County, Decatur Township, Lewistown P.O.
William H. Long, age 33, occupation “Gun Smith”, b. PA; Sarah J., age 23, occupation “Keeping House”, b. PA; Emma E., age 2; Mary, age 7 months.

1880 Federal Census, Pennsylvania, Mifflin Co., Armagh Twp, Milroy P.O., Dist. 168
William Long, age 44, occupation “Gun Smith”, b. PA; Sarah, age 33; Mary, age 10; Maggie, age 8.

1900 Federal Census, Pennsylvania, Centre County, Howard Borough, District
Walter Cooke, b. September 1885; Emma E., b. February 1872; Mary M., b. November 1896; William H. Long, b. October 1836, “Widow”
Note: Living with his daughter, Emma, her husband, Walter Cooke.

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Re: Long List of Long's
« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2010, 03:28:28 AM »
God bless you Mark! Your time and trouble are highly appreciated!
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Re: Long List of Long's
« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2010, 05:42:50 PM »
I am most amused by reference to Millionaire Club's newsletter editor's list of Union Co gunsmiths. Many years ago I published in that publication a list of Union Co gunsmiths taken from tax lists in Union Co court house. I wonder how much he improved upon it.

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Re: Long List of Long's
« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2010, 06:53:51 PM »
Mark....most interesting study here.  I've looked at a lot of Joe Long rifles and they seem to have a certain look, different
from all other Snyder County builders.   I have recently looked at what I considered to be a Joe Long gun but it is unsigned, which I found unusual.    In reading your information about the sons of Joe, I am now wondering if maybe this
gun was built by one of them.   This gun came out of a house that is about 1/4 mile from where Joe Long lived.      Don