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Engraving tools for longrifle work
« on: November 11, 2010, 04:40:24 AM »
Can someone suggest where to find high quality engraving tools that  would be appropriate for longrifle work?
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Re: Engraving tools for longrifle work
« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2010, 04:49:54 AM »
Take some 1/8 square lathe tool bits and mount them in some aluminum shanks. Grind them to shape. Cheap, easy, durable.

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Re: Engraving tools for longrifle work
« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2010, 06:54:06 AM »
Brownells sells die sinkers chisels that can be shaped into some nice engraving tools.  I have used die sinkers chisels for years.  I recently went to using the Lindsay sharpening system as it was taking me too long to sharpen my engravers by eye.
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Re: Engraving tools for longrifle work
« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2010, 04:31:50 PM »
I know this is an odd guestion, but witch stones  do you use to get the graver sharp? this is a new skill I need to learn!

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Re: Engraving tools for longrifle work
« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2010, 04:42:32 PM »
Diamond coated sharpening systems are really great for fast stock removal. Woodcraft sells them, for one. Get yourself a ruby stone for finish polishing of the graver face and edges. Gesswein sells them. A sharpening fixture is real handy, the best being the Lindsay system, but you need to have the right tool configuration to use it, ie: square shank gravers, not round or knife shaped.

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Re: Engraving tools for longrifle work
« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2010, 05:01:26 PM »
Can someone suggest where to find high quality engraving tools that  would be appropriate for longrifle work?

You can save yourself from buying a lot of things you don't need by renting Lynton McKenzie's engraving videos. He states that he can duplicate the high end English engraving with a square and a flat graver and he would know. So spend money buying squares and learn to sharpen them. He shows how to sharpen gravers with stones.
Anyone who is planning of learning to engrave or wants to watch a true master work needs this video set.
Buy a bunch of practice plates from Brownells and start cutting straight lines till they look good, then start on circles and ovals.

I have a GRS hone I bought off a web site really cheap and love it for sharpening gravers, but its not needed.

1/8 lathe tools are good. I used to buy the 4" long 3/32 squares from Brownell's until then went out of production. They are perfect for engraving with a hammer but too long for gravermeister and such so they have become extinct.

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Re: Engraving tools for longrifle work
« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2010, 05:57:27 PM »
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Enco is the most reasonably priced place to buy them.  They cost about a buck apiece in HSS.  They are frequently on sale in 10-pacs for around 68 cents apiece.

If one chooses the Lindsay templates, a 3/32 collet is standard for pnuematic gravers.  However, he does now offer an 1/8 collet, but you have to request it when you order.

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Dan....I can't remember which supplier I used, but I think it was MSC.  Anyway, they sell square 3/32" stock in 3 foot lengths.  It's W1 steel.  You can cut them into 2.5" lengths, round grind in the annealed state, and then harden and fine sharpen them.
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Re: Engraving tools for longrifle work
« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2010, 06:58:32 PM »
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1/8 lathe tools are good

Enco is the most reasonably priced place to buy them.  They cost about a buck apiece in HSS.  They are frequently on sale in 10-pacs for around 68 cents apiece.

If one chooses the Lindsay templates, a 3/32 collet is standard for pnuematic gravers.  However, he does now offer an 1/8 collet, but you have to request it when you order.

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I used to buy the 4" long 3/32 squares from Brownell's until then went out of production.


Dan....I can't remember which supplier I used, but I think it was MSC.  Anyway, they sell square 3/32" stock in 3 foot lengths.  It's W1 steel.  You can cut them into 2.5" lengths, round grind in the annealed state, and then harden and fine sharpen them.


Yeah I make flats from 01 from MSC.
Suppose I could make some squares too.
Just disgruntled the turkeys quit making the 4" length. ::) ;D

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Re: Engraving tools for longrifle work
« Reply #8 on: November 11, 2010, 11:00:50 PM »
Acer, Thanks for the graver print.
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Re: Engraving tools for longrifle work
« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2010, 12:56:21 AM »
I can e-mail the print as a PDF, which should print out nice and clear. Just PM me with your e-mail address.

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Re: Engraving tools for longrifle work
« Reply #10 on: November 12, 2010, 02:31:59 AM »
Thank you gentalmen . this helps alot . I have a lot to learn If I am to improve in this craft            KEN