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mcdenney

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Granda's Rifle
« on: November 30, 2010, 05:27:54 AM »
Hello!  My first post here so excuse me if this is in the wrong spot and gladly move it where it should go if needed.  Basically, I need some help and was pointed to this forum in hopes of getting some direction and good feedback.  Here's my situation....Growing up I spent a lot of time with my grandpa hunting and fishing. We literally went everywhere together. In particular, I used to always admire his blackpowder rifle that he used to call his "hog" gun. He would use it to hunt squirrels, rabbits and of course kill hogs.

My grandpa passed away a long, long time ago when I was a young kid. I wanted that rifle bad but unfortunately it ended up going to the oldest son and was then passed on to his oldest son (my cousin). Over the years I tried desperately to get my hands on that rifle and offered to buy it several times without any luck.

No disrespect to the family but after I grew up I was really the only one with a passion for the outdoors who could appreciate grandpas gun and take appropriate care of it. Honestly the rest don't know one end of a gun from the other. Fast forward to this week, thanksgiving day of all things. My cousin, now getting up in years and not in the best of health, pulled me aside. He said I know how much you thought of grandpa and how much grandpa thought of you and I think it would be appropriate for me to give you grandpas rifle. I think grandpa would want it that way. I about fell over! After all these years I finally have in my hands grandpas hog rifle. I'm pretty excited!

Now the reason for my post. I need some help. The rifle has not been taken care of properly and I need some help on how to proceed in getting it in its best working condition. I would like to get it in the best condition I possibly can in hopes that it will last a long time and that I can pass it on to my kids and their kids.

I always thought it was a KY Long Rifle (percussion cap) in .32 caliber. However, after inspecting it very thoroughly I can't seem to find any markings on the gun to indicate the maker. It's 58" long from tip to tip and I have plenty of pics I will post. Any help in identifying what it is would be appreciated. 

In addition to all that, how do I get it back in shape (the best I can anyway). Therefore, I am looking for any and all suggestions. The nipple, the area around the nipple, the double set triggers, missing ramp rod, and of course the barrel (both inside and out) need some attention. Some of this stuff may have to be replaced. My ultimate goal is to get it back to where I might be able to shoot it and then keep it in good shape after that but I don't want to destroy the heritage of the gun.

Is there someone really good who would specialize in getting this back into shape (preferably someone close by to Lexington, KY)?

Thoughts, recommendations? Thanks guys!

mcdenney

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Re: Granda's Rifle
« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2010, 05:34:11 AM »









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Re: Granda's Rifle
« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2010, 05:49:37 AM »
There are some very knowledgeable experts on this forum.  Please DO NOTHING to the gun until you have heard from these people.  I'm sure they will chime in soon.
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Re: Granda's Rifle
« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2010, 05:57:03 AM »
You are going to have to have a stick to keep the experts away when they see that rifle, I would think :)

Congratulations.

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Re: Granda's Rifle
« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2010, 06:10:57 AM »
Mcdenny,

That is one honest old rifle. And what a good thing that you are finally the caretaker. There are so many things about it that I like...reminds me of a country girl that's never been to town.

Steve


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Re: Granda's Rifle
« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2010, 06:43:11 AM »
Looks like it doesn't need much more than a tang screw, a ramrod, a little boiled linseed oil on the stock, and some oil on the metal. I wouldn't shoot it but put it on the wall with the powder horn and maybe a picture of your Grandpa.

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Re: Granda's Rifle
« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2010, 08:37:56 AM »
While the gun could be from Tennessee, its butt has a lot of characteristics of late rifles made by Green Cornett of Perry Co., KY. He used identical side facings, butt profile, heavy flat bottomed cheekpieces, and the same little lock bolt washer with a few engraved lines. However, I have not seen a poured pewter nose cap on his work before, and the guard's grip rail differs fom the couple of guns I've seen. Perry Co. was down in southeastern KY and heavily influenced by the nearby Tennessee guns. If it is Cornett's work, it would have to be one of his earlier guns. He also used relatively short barrels, usually 40" or less when original which was unusual for that part of KY, and he liked small calibers. Most of his work, if this might be the maker, dates to the 1860s and up into the 1890s.  Did your grandfather provide any details on where he acquired the rifle? Shelby Gallien
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Re: Granda's Rifle
« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2010, 11:57:12 AM »
A fine gun. You are blessed to have it. Love the furniture.

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Re: Granda's Rifle
« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2010, 07:45:52 PM »
Mcdenney,

Welcome to ALR.  I've sent you a personal message.

Safety first. Have you checked to see if the gun is loaded?

Second, please do not use any aggressive cleaning methods, steel-wool, sandpaper, etc., nothing that will ruin the patina, the value and the gun's history.

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Re: Granda's Rifle
« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2010, 10:01:47 PM »
Love it! Classic old "Hog Rifle".

Don't "restore" it! Clean and polish it with Renaissance Wax. You can use the wax on both metal and wood. Maybe put a (aged) tang screw and ram rod in it.
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Re: Granda's Rifle
« Reply #10 on: December 01, 2010, 04:07:48 AM »
Mcdenney,

Welcome to ALR.  I've sent you a personal message.

Safety first. Have you checked to see if the gun is loaded?

Second, please do not use any aggressive cleaning methods, steel-wool, sandpaper, etc., nothing that will ruin the patina, the value and the gun's history.

-Ron


I have not been able to check it yet due to no ramp rod and really nothing I have is appropriate/long enough to check it.   I am not going to do anything until I get with someone in the know ( maybe even a couple).  I really don't have any history on where the gun came from unfortunately.  However, I know grandpa had this gun a long time back to when he was a young man and possibly a kid.  It could of even been passed down to him but not sure.   

I want to keep the authentic look of the gun but if it is safe enough I want to shoot it and take it hunting at least once.