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Bedford Co Rifle lock markings
« on: May 26, 2011, 08:07:35 PM »
I'm trying to decipher the lock markings on this lock from a Bedford co. rifle I just picked up. I can make out the last letter, which is B, and I'm pretty sure it's a Border gun, but which one? Could the First mark be a J for John Border or am I just seeing things? What do you guys think?






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Re: Bedford Co Rifle lock markings
« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2011, 08:25:09 PM »
I'd start with Border in Jim Whisker's Bedford book and go from there.
If you don't have a copy.  I have an extra.   PM Me.  The rest of the gun
might help......
« Last Edit: May 26, 2011, 08:25:36 PM by suzkat »
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Re: Bedford Co Rifle lock markings
« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2011, 08:55:28 PM »
Thanks Suzkat. I have a copy of the book. This pretty much looks like any of the other Border guns. I only took a couple pics of it yesterday and it's raining buckets outside right now. The rifle has been cut down and is a wreck. The trigger guard is not the original as well. Here is a pic of the patchbox. The engraving looks very similar to the engraving on a Daniel Border gun that I have. I am trying to figure out the markings on the lock though.


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Re: Bedford Co Rifle lock markings
« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2011, 09:04:23 PM »
Love that patchbox engraving.  Great find.  Did you have to pay
retail or garage sale?  One of my buddies just went to an estate moving
sale.  There was a muzzleloader in the basement rafters that the owner lady never noticed.  She gave it to him for $100.  I've had my eye on a
beautiful Defibaugh for a year now.  Wish me luck.
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Re: Bedford Co Rifle lock markings
« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2011, 09:37:57 PM »
I got it off of one of the online auction sites. Considering the condition it's in it wasn't a great deal but I was still happy to get it. I guess I'm weird but I love these things in virtually any condition. Is the Defibaugh rifle your after the one in your other post? That really is in great shape!  Good luck on your pursuit.

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Re: Bedford Co Rifle lock markings
« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2011, 11:12:16 PM »
Looks like a J, nice piece.
Buck

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Re: Bedford Co Rifle lock markings
« Reply #6 on: May 27, 2011, 12:09:03 AM »
Nice rifle Wes, I don't see anything that can't be fixed.  Actually I like it just as it is! ;D

FK
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Re: Bedford Co Rifle lock markings
« Reply #7 on: May 27, 2011, 10:38:27 PM »
Courtesy of Whisker:

Absolutely positively Daniel D Border
Any more he can buy my Bedford book
In Memory of Lt. Catherine Hauptman Miller 6/1/21 - 10/1/00 & Capt. Raymond A. Miller 12/26/13 - 5/15/03...  They served proudly.

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Re: Bedford Co Rifle lock markings
« Reply #8 on: May 27, 2011, 11:30:19 PM »
Thanks guys!  Mr. Whiskers comments make perfect sense. I thought that the middle initial looked like a D but I wasn't aware that Daniel Borders middle initial was D. Great! Thanks Scooter, but I think I have every one of your books! I am truly indebted to all of the research that you have made available through the years.  :)