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Offline bob in the woods

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Bresien barrel
« on: July 07, 2014, 01:30:39 AM »
I have a 1 in straight oct. 32 inch long .54 cal  Bresien barrel.  I've had this for a few years, and was recently thinking about what I could build with it.  Not being into " Hawken" rifles  I was wondering about an English sporting rifle perhaps?
Any suggestions ?   Also, does anyone know what material he used for his barrels ?

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Re: Bresien barrel
« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2014, 01:44:35 AM »
Bob, can't help you with what it was built with, but if you aren't into Hawken's (and I consider the barrel you have a little short anyhow in that caliber for Hawken), an English sporting rifle (or deer park rifle) would be a good option for a barrel that length and caliber.

Here's a link to Julia's site with a 55 cal 27" bbl Joseph Manton flint rifle (somewhat unusual in that it is not a double) http://jamesdjulia.com/item/lot-1250-joseph-manton-flint-single-rifle-37720/

Alternately, you could build a Leman (or Henry) in either full or half-stock with it. I just find them a touch hard on the shoulder when you pull the trigger, which would be amplified with a 54 and a heavier charge.

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Re: Bresien barrel
« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2014, 02:29:19 AM »
Thank you for that link. Nice rifle  :)    One that I was thinking of is posted on the "Flintriflesmith" website.  as an English Short rifle. Suggested as a possible gamekeeper's rifle.

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Re: Bresien barrel
« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2014, 02:46:04 AM »
That "short rifle" reminded me quite a bit of the English (pattern) 1776 rifle - another option of similar style which used a full octagon barrel.

While the original was a 62 cal with 30.5" hooked breech barrel, you could make it "believable" with what you have.



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Re: Bresien barrel
« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2014, 03:01:36 AM »
P.S. - found an old post where Don Getz stated that he once asked Ken Bresien what steel he used for his barrels. The response was 12L14 and from an old article I found on his barrels, the twist should be 1:66.
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Re: Bresien barrel
« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2014, 03:10:39 AM »
Thank you again.  English rifle it is. 

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Re: Bresien barrel
« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2014, 05:04:03 AM »
Be aware that the gun in the photo above has a tapered and flared barrel. You won't get the same architecture with a straight barrel.
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Re: Bresien barrel
« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2014, 05:29:53 AM »
Thank you Acer. I still lean towards something along the lines of the rifle on the Flintriflesmith website. It does not appear to have that severe a swamp .  One reason I asked about the material of construction. I could file a slight swamp without too much difficulty [ 32 in barrel] if it is actually 12L14  , but if it's anything like the barrel I'm working on now [ Rayle} ..forget it !

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Re: Bresien barrel
« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2014, 05:53:38 AM »
Ken Bresien told me he used 12L14.The hard to file Ed Rayle barrel speaks well of Ed's
being cautious about material.He told me he used 8620 and I have made breeches from it
and didn't notice anything unusual about the way it behaved in a lathe or V mill.

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Re: Bresien barrel
« Reply #9 on: July 08, 2014, 06:01:53 PM »
Here's an English gun in curly maple, as per the order, that Taylor made some years back - with a straight, 1" .54, I believe.  Note single, set trigger.

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