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Offline runastav

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Building my #2 American Longrifle
« on: April 29, 2015, 07:55:04 PM »
Hi all!
As Steve Bookout say, I will try to build me a East Tennessee Squirrel Rifle. Stock of European Alder and Bookies stockpattern. Charles Burton barrel cal 40- 13/16x44 smoothbore and handrifled on my Wooden Iowa Rifling Bench. Late English Flint Lock by L&R
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Re: Building my #2 American Longrifle
« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2015, 09:09:17 PM »
Always excited to see you start another project.  That is a good choice of lock for the rifle.  Have fun and keep us posted.

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Re: Building my #2 American Longrifle
« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2015, 09:14:50 PM »
My advice regarding the lock:  polish the frizzen spring, and re-temper to a grey/blue...past that beautiful deep blue, bright blue and then kinda grey.  These springs are too hard as received, and will likely break.

Great new project - please keep us posted.
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Re: Building my #2 American Longrifle
« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2015, 06:44:11 AM »
How does the European Alder work as a stock wood? Around here we have red Alder, It's a pretty wood, good for spoons and bowls but really soft.  Can't say as I haven't thought about it though, I like the idea of using local wood. 

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Re: Building my #2 American Longrifle
« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2015, 04:16:33 PM »
Hi All and thank you!
I will remember that Taylor, thank you. Eric, this is my first build of European Alder but it is nice to work on it . So is the barrel inlet, yes I use my router sorry to your historically correct folks, but I must save the rest of my elbow grease you see ;) Here  is a photo of a very nice longrifle Peter Rasmussen from Norway(RIP) build in 1987 of European Alder look at the nice carwing!
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Re: Building my #2 American Longrifle
« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2015, 06:03:04 PM »
Runastav, I LOVE your shop especially your work bench  ;D- keep up the fine work and do post many pictures of your progress!
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Re: Building my #2 American Longrifle
« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2015, 06:26:03 PM »
Yea, the shop is nice---but check out that "custom" router table !   Where their's a will their's a way.     Any curl or grain pattern on that Alder ?  In the states alder is much used as a furniture frame wood as well as cabinets.    It hates water tho.  I have that lock on my rifle--since 1987 really a good one, no problems so far......Tom
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Re: Building my #2 American Longrifle
« Reply #7 on: May 02, 2015, 07:26:12 PM »
This side of the Atlantic it's mostly known as "black alder." Pretty soft and easily worked. Wooden clogs were commonly made of the stuff. It's pretty water resistant--the pilings under Venice were (are?) European alder. I believe it was introduced to North America in colonial times and has naturalized. It can be pretty invasive. A fairly short-lived tree and subject to heart rot.
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Re: Building my #2 American Longrifle
« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2015, 05:54:59 PM »
I rather like alder smoked beef or moose jerky. With a bit of hickory thrown in - very nice.
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Re: Building my #2 American Longrifle
« Reply #9 on: May 05, 2015, 07:37:25 PM »
Hi All, and thank you!
Alder is nice easy to drill the RR hole. Thank you folks me to like my work bench nice and clean haha :D
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Re: Building my #2 American Longrifle
« Reply #10 on: May 09, 2015, 05:43:37 PM »
Hi All!
Bookie suggest a long pointed tang, and so it will be ;)
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Re: Building my #2 American Longrifle
« Reply #11 on: May 10, 2015, 12:49:42 AM »
My advice regarding the lock:  polish the frizzen spring, and re-temper to a grey/blue...past that beautiful deep blue, bright blue and then kinda grey.  These springs are too hard as received, and will likely break....


I've experienced this problem with frizzen springs on L&R's RPL line of locks as well. 

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Re: Building my #2 American Longrifle
« Reply #12 on: June 08, 2015, 07:39:19 PM »
Hi All!
Get some building , very busy with all kinds of guns :)
The breach plug nice fit, and is inlet in stock.
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Re: Building my #2 American Longrifle
« Reply #13 on: June 08, 2015, 09:12:02 PM »

Thanks for posting your build looking forward to watching it come together.

Taylor is the hard spring unique to the frizzen on Late English locks? Or should we be re tempering the main spring as well on the late english? or all LR springs? I have small LR  Manton apart for polishing  (which I am very pleased to own) just wondering if the springs should done. 

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Re: Building my #2 American Longrifle
« Reply #14 on: June 12, 2015, 06:46:04 PM »
Hi All! And thank you ddoyle!
Barrel lops, hmmm I fix it better and better soon it will be invisible hehe ;)
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Re: Building my #2 American Longrifle
« Reply #15 on: June 12, 2015, 06:56:46 PM »
Thanks for your most excelent documentation of your work. Your text discriptions and photos make it easy for anyone to follow along. As usual, its always fun to watch your progress.

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Re: Building my #2 American Longrifle
« Reply #16 on: June 12, 2015, 08:33:17 PM »
Almost a tutorial; great posts.
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Re: Building my #2 American Longrifle
« Reply #17 on: June 13, 2015, 12:22:26 AM »
Thank you for putting on another great show!
I just love your toolhandling and how you improvise, loads of instructive photos and last but not least: an honest hillbilly workbench  ;D

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Re: Building my #2 American Longrifle
« Reply #18 on: June 15, 2015, 05:40:02 PM »
Hi All, and thank you :)
Ramrod pipes made and inlet (Rørken in old Norwegian ;))
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Re: Building my #2 American Longrifle
« Reply #19 on: June 18, 2015, 05:00:06 PM »
Hi All!
So its the Late English flint lock by L&R  in place, see the last photo @!*%?& the American Longrifles are Loooong ding dong every time it must handle :(
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Re: Building my #2 American Longrifle
« Reply #20 on: June 18, 2015, 07:40:21 PM »
Runar,

I didn't understand the last part of your post until I got down to the last picture.  Then I understood completely !!!!  My work space looks very much like yours and I am constantly banging either the barrel or the butt stock of any rifle on the over head, the walls, other tools, the lights....everything.  Too bad I don't like to distress my rifles...all I would need to do is not take them outside for the final smoothing operation.

I always enjoy your posts.
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Re: Building my #2 American Longrifle
« Reply #21 on: June 18, 2015, 09:13:18 PM »
yup...there's a couple of places on my ceiling fan blades with dings..... :-X

nice inletting of the locks guts.....I wish I was as neat....

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Re: Building my #2 American Longrifle
« Reply #22 on: June 19, 2015, 03:44:44 AM »
I was going to say the same thing.  The lock inletting method is great.  I'm getting a milling vise to be able to do that.  My last rifle looks OK on the outside and like a beaver was gnawing it on the inside.
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Re: Building my #2 American Longrifle
« Reply #23 on: June 19, 2015, 04:07:49 AM »
Looking good Runar!

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Re: Building my #2 American Longrifle
« Reply #24 on: June 19, 2015, 05:08:27 AM »
I live halfway around the world yet we have a very similar light setup!  Nice follow along, Runastav!  Longrifles bring the world together, lol.

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