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Offline Ed Wenger

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North Carolina Rifle
« on: August 24, 2015, 10:20:15 PM »
This rifle is based on a Salem/Davidson School, NC piece.  The inspiration for the rifle came from #123 in William Ivey's wonderful book, "North Carolina Schools of Longrifles 1765-1865".  The original rifle was unsigned, with Peter Christ given as the possible maker.  I would suspect that the Vogler family influenced the builder, whom ever he was, but that's purely speculation on my part.  Some things were added, such as the "Dragon Tail" finials behind the lock & side plate panels.  I also shamefully copied from Jim Kibler the "Man on the Moon" cheek inly, done in sterling silver.  Also added was the beehive wrist inlay.

The barrel is a Rice "Southern Classic" profile in .50 cal.  The lock is a Chambers late Ketland, and the triggers are Davis.  The butt piece is from Reeves and the trigger guard is from Dru Hedgecock.  The silver oval estuchens and draws were something added as well, #123 utilized pins.  The barrel and lock were cold blued, then rubbed back with scotchbrite pads.  The stock was stained with my home brewed aqua fortis, finished with several coats of Permalyn sealer, then scrubbed with an old tooth brush utilizing paraffin oil and #4 pumice stone.  The brass box was a fairly close copy of #123, and the last photo shows how the release operates.  If anyone has any questions, please ask, and comments welcomed.  Some of the photos are better than others....   Thanks!

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Re: North Carolina Rifle
« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2015, 10:53:45 PM »
Ed, now that is just SWEET!  Fine looking rifle you made there.  I do believe you are getting pretty goo with your engraving as well.  Well done sir!

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Re: North Carolina Rifle
« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2015, 11:16:54 PM »
Fine, very fine indeed.
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Re: North Carolina Rifle
« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2015, 11:19:20 PM »
 Another Beauty Ed, it all goes together well.

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Re: North Carolina Rifle
« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2015, 11:23:22 PM »
Very nice.  I like those Salem guns, and have a lot of ancestors that were in that area in that time period.  I appreciate the view of the patch box release mechanism...wondered what that looked like.
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Re: North Carolina Rifle
« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2015, 12:13:46 AM »
Ed, that is a beautiful rifle indeed.  I thought I had a chart and some pictures of Reeves' butt plates and trigger guards somewhere but can't locate them.  Which of Reeves' butt plates is that?  Thanks.

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Re: North Carolina Rifle
« Reply #6 on: August 25, 2015, 12:33:13 AM »
Very nice Ed. Two things that jump out at me are the fine pointed comb and the degree of dificulty on that long pierced toe plate.

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Re: North Carolina Rifle
« Reply #7 on: August 25, 2015, 12:44:00 AM »
Very nice southern rifle. Where did you get the maple wood?

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Re: North Carolina Rifle
« Reply #8 on: August 25, 2015, 12:57:41 AM »
Another outstanding piece of work. I like everything about it, Ed.

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Re: North Carolina Rifle
« Reply #9 on: August 25, 2015, 01:03:18 AM »
Very very nice!

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Re: North Carolina Rifle
« Reply #10 on: August 25, 2015, 01:34:36 AM »
Being southern born and bred, with all my roots being in NC I really love seeing these re-created NC rifles. Ed, you did North Carolina proud, great work for a guy raised in Lancaster PA ;D
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Re: North Carolina Rifle
« Reply #11 on: August 25, 2015, 01:42:39 AM »
Very nice Ed as always!!! Love the patch box,just perfect.What's the significance of the beehive Masonic,Mormon or something else??

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Re: North Carolina Rifle
« Reply #12 on: August 25, 2015, 01:45:25 AM »
Super Ed!

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Re: North Carolina Rifle
« Reply #13 on: August 25, 2015, 02:32:09 AM »
That is a beautiful rifle !  :)

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Re: North Carolina Rifle
« Reply #14 on: August 25, 2015, 02:32:46 AM »
Thanks to all, very much appreciated!  

The butt piece is a #4 Reeves'....

The blank I got from Dunlap's...  Funny thing about the blank was that it had a substantial mineral stain through the toe area.  I was fairly sure it would disappear once stained, and it did.

I'm not sure of the significance of the beehive, other than it was found on historical NC documents dating to the 1700's.  Maybe someone would know?  Dennis?....

High praise indeed, Dennis, lol!  


Thanks again,

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Re: North Carolina Rifle
« Reply #15 on: August 25, 2015, 03:46:03 AM »
I'm certainly no NC expert, and I've seen a number of them that I didn't much care for, but sure like that one.

Nice job Ed!

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Re: North Carolina Rifle
« Reply #16 on: August 25, 2015, 04:03:22 AM »
Beautiful ,well done Sir.

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Re: North Carolina Rifle
« Reply #17 on: August 25, 2015, 04:28:11 AM »
Congratulations on a fine looking firearm Ed. I like everything about it, especially the slim lines and architecture and your workmanship is outstanding.

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Re: North Carolina Rifle
« Reply #18 on: August 25, 2015, 06:01:58 AM »
This rifle has major cool factor!  Workmanship is superlative.  Just love it!!
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Re: North Carolina Rifle
« Reply #19 on: August 25, 2015, 06:49:47 AM »
Nice job Ed!  The gun just keeps growing on me.  The more I look at it the more I like it.
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Re: North Carolina Rifle
« Reply #20 on: August 25, 2015, 02:57:13 PM »
I just ordered William Ivey's book this morning as I've admittedly been hooked on NC rifles for some time.  I'm working on a Phillip Gillespie rifle now and gathering the parts for a Mathew Gillespie next.  I'd planned on a poor boy rifle in the Deep River style after that, but those Salem school rifles certainly catch my eye.  So many projects; so little time (and money). 

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Re: North Carolina Rifle
« Reply #21 on: August 25, 2015, 05:07:06 PM »
You'll love the book.  Lots of really nice rifles, and very well done.


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Re: North Carolina Rifle
« Reply #22 on: August 25, 2015, 05:20:08 PM »
Beautiful work Ed!  I looked it up in the book and I think its much nicer!
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Re: North Carolina Rifle
« Reply #23 on: August 25, 2015, 07:17:29 PM »
Beautifully done, all of it, especially the cheek side carving, perfect!!!!
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Re: North Carolina Rifle
« Reply #24 on: August 25, 2015, 07:59:25 PM »
Very nice rifle I like it a LOT!
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