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My 25-year-old problem child, patiently raised
« on: January 01, 2016, 01:06:34 AM »
I just posted some pictures yesterday on the recent thread related to rust bluing. I showed two pictures of a rifle I completed about two years ago. Rich Pierce kindly suggested I should post more pictures of this gun. Well, twist my arm!

I began this gun at least 25 years ago with a very nice curly maple blank (don't recall the source), a swamped Getz .58 caliber 37" barrel, an early flint lock made by a fellow named Vance who no longer is apparently in business. I wanted to create a pre-revolutionary rifle, not specifically tied to any school, and decided, for some reason, on using steel furniture.

So sometime in the late '80's, I chucked that nice maple blank in a vise and hand inlet the swamped barrel without much trauma. (I think it was the first swamped barrel I inlet by hand, and it came out not too badly.) I then flipped it over, cut the ramrod groove, and using a home-made pointed spade bit from a steel rod, slowly smoked my way through the fore-end until the ramrod hole was of suitable length.

Getting to work on shaping the blank after that, I found, to my horror, that when working down the contours of the fore-end, I could mash the wood surface of the fore-end right into the ramrod hole. Too shallow! I hadn't gotten as far as actually fracturing or splitting the wood, so attempted to salvage it by gluing in a brass tube to support the wood. That worked okay until temperature and barometric pressure shrank the wood and created the crack all along the length of the ramrod hole that I was trying to avoid.

I considered and actually made some wear plates to inlet over the crack, none of which really worked. The crack extended all the way from the entry pipe to the trigger guard.

At that point the whole project was consigned to the back burner and left pretty much untouched for the next two decades while I worked on other projects. Every once in awhile, I'd pull it out, look at it, shake my head and try to decide whether to continue or throw the thing on the fire. The only thing that saved it was that it was such a nice piece of wood.

Eventually I decided I needed to finish it up a couple of years ago.  I made a full set of sheet steel pipes including an entry pipe with a long rear extension to cover most of the damage. I chopped out the ramrod hole and brass tube from below, placed a wood patch between the trigger guard and entry pipe extension, then placed a large steel inlay in front of the trigger guard to cover the tail end of the damage. Since the guard now had a big inlay in front, I felt that I should place another inlay at the rear to balance it, which I did, although these inlays probably are not very appropriate for a pre-rev gun. I cut in some incised carving to conceal the edge of the wood patch. With all this done and inlet, I proceeded with final inletting and raised carving.

In the process of the final inletting of the lock, I managed to cause an oblique fracture from upper front end of the lock up into the back of the forestock. This wound is still evident on the pics, following glue repair.

Something possessed me at that time to create sling swivels, to give the appearance of possible military or militia use. I drilled a transverse hole through the front of the trigger guard without a problem, then a transverse hole through the fore-end, reinforced with a big lug on the barrel.

So in the final process of finishing, after staining with LMF honey maple stain, I was applying LMF Permalyn sealer followed by LMF finish. On the final application of finish, applied in an upright position holding the muzzle end of the stock gingerly in my fingers, the thing slipped out of my grip and made a graceful arc to the concrete floor, and the forestock neatly divided itself into two pieces, right through the sling swivel hole.

Surviving the near cardiac arrest I sustained at that point, I felt I had gone too far to throw it on the fire, and consequently did an Accraglas repair through the fracture which, though sort of visible, is really not too obtrusive.

In any case, after 25 or so years, the prodigal child was done, and here is the final result. Overall I think the final result may have been worth the heartburn.

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The moral? I don't know. Don't give up the ship? Preferably, don't screw up in the first place, although we all know that doesn't happen every time.
So anyway, thanks for asking to post pictures, Rich, and I hope everyone enjoys.

Happy New Year to all!

Gregg
« Last Edit: January 01, 2016, 01:11:53 AM by Hemo »

Offline Mike Brooks

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Re: My 25-year-old problem child, patiently raised
« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2016, 01:22:55 AM »
You got me beat, I only have 15 years in one particular gun. :P
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Re: My 25-year-old problem child, patiently raised
« Reply #2 on: January 01, 2016, 01:29:11 AM »
 OH YEA! I love that entry pipe and the color is Great, it All fits well. A real beauty, as they say "Good things come..."

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Re: My 25-year-old problem child, patiently raised
« Reply #3 on: January 01, 2016, 03:10:16 AM »
Ooh....... I LOVE that rifle!    That rear entry thimble is outstanding.

Offline David R. Pennington

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Re: My 25-year-old problem child, patiently raised
« Reply #4 on: January 01, 2016, 03:12:28 AM »
Wish I could mess one up that good.
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Re: My 25-year-old problem child, patiently raised
« Reply #5 on: January 01, 2016, 03:36:46 AM »
Looks great. Thanks for posting. Many new builders need this kind of encouragement to continue when they have made a mistake or two...........Bob
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Re: My 25-year-old problem child, patiently raised
« Reply #6 on: January 01, 2016, 03:42:53 AM »
There are rifles that really try our patience with all kinds of problems, it looks like you overcame your problems on this one.  Great story, great looking rifle.
Bob

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Re: My 25-year-old problem child, patiently raised
« Reply #7 on: January 01, 2016, 04:06:27 AM »
Thanks for posting it.  Lots to love there.  Great design.  Super clean.
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Re: My 25-year-old problem child, patiently raised
« Reply #8 on: January 01, 2016, 04:31:09 AM »
Outstanding job of overcoming your problems. Really like that patchbox

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Re: My 25-year-old problem child, patiently raised
« Reply #9 on: January 01, 2016, 04:54:30 AM »
Every project has a back story, some more interesting than others. In spite of the "story", or maybe because of it you have built a really nice rifle. Absolutely you have learned more from this project than you would have if it would have gone "smoothly".  Really nice rifle, in my favorite deer hunting caliber too. Hoo hoo! BJH
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Re: My 25-year-old problem child, patiently raised
« Reply #10 on: January 01, 2016, 05:23:23 AM »
Very nice. I would say you were a good parent.  ;D

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Re: My 25-year-old problem child, patiently raised
« Reply #11 on: January 01, 2016, 05:59:07 AM »
That is one beautiful rifle. Love the metal color combo.

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Re: My 25-year-old problem child, patiently raised
« Reply #12 on: January 01, 2016, 03:43:56 PM »
Hi Gregg,
That is one of the finer rifles I have seen here.
Really no small compliment.
Beautiful rifle, well earned by a very good craftsman.
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Re: My 25-year-old problem child, patiently raised
« Reply #13 on: January 01, 2016, 04:51:17 PM »
Gregg, congratulations on your perseverance, and a really fine rifle.  Lots of interesting aspects that all "fit" well.  Thanks for posting the photos and story!


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« Reply #14 on: January 01, 2016, 05:55:52 PM »
 "Good things come to those who wait", is the old English saying.  Looks flawless in the photos.  How many coats of LMF finish is that?   Nice, nice rifle.
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Re: My 25-year-old problem child, patiently raised
« Reply #15 on: January 01, 2016, 06:07:00 PM »
Nice job!! True craftsmanship! Thanks for the story.

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« Reply #16 on: January 01, 2016, 07:38:12 PM »
When I started reading your post, before seeing the pictures, I thought I was going to see a some what messed up rifle, what I found was a beautiful piece of work that, if I could do so well, would make me very happy indeed.  You not only managed to overcome some difficulties but managed to turn them into a very unique piece in deed. 

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Re: My 25-year-old problem child, patiently raised
« Reply #17 on: January 01, 2016, 10:31:23 PM »
Greg, That turned out pretty nice....  I think I will get out my 35 year old project.  I just need your address!!!! LOL
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Re: My 25-year-old problem child, patiently raised
« Reply #18 on: January 02, 2016, 02:07:25 AM »
Thanks, all, for your kind comments!

BJH, there's no doubt this project was a deeper learning experience for me than most of the ones that have gone smooth as silk!

Boompa, the finish was started with two applications of LMF honey maple, left to dry, then two soaking coats of LMF sealer, left to soak in per instructions for about 10-15 minutes, then wiped off. After the sealing coats were dried, I rubbed in four or five applications of LMF finish, very vigorously by hand, until the surface felt very warm (like linseed oil). All carving was then vigorously brushed out with a soft toothbrush to clear any finish out of the recesses. After each coat was dry to touch, though not necessarily cured, I went over it with very soft cotton T-shirt rags to bring it up to a gloss. This was followed with wax at the end. I believe I may have used Renaissance wax on this gun, which is an extremely protective wax--although I had hoped that age would bring a little dark patina to the bright metal, it's just about as shiny as the day I finished it two years ago! The overall effect is pretty brand-new armory bright, if you like that. I actually have come to prefer a bit of soft aging and patination of metal and soft satin oiled finish on wood on my more recent projects.

Mark E., "LOVE" is a strong word, and very flattering! I can see a number of the Virginia features of your guns on this piece, although I was not specifically attempting to do a strict "Virginia". I suppose, if pressed, I could call it "Virginia inspired", though!

Best wishes to all!

Gregg

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Re: My 25-year-old problem child, patiently raised
« Reply #19 on: January 02, 2016, 02:51:04 AM »
Great story of perseverance, and the end result is a testament to your skill, patience and stamina.  I too love the rifle...what a hunter!  And I really like the butterscotch colour - a nice change.  Your stain did justice to the curl figure of the wood.

The Vance lock is now made by L & R - I think they call it, "American Classic".  So parts are probably available if you need them.
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« Reply #20 on: January 02, 2016, 03:00:42 AM »
Great story of perseverance, and the end result is a testament to your skill, patience and stamina.  I too love the rifle...what a hunter!  And I really like the butterscotch colour - a nice change.  Your stain did justice to the curl figure of the wood.

The Vance lock is now made by L & R - I think they call it, "American Classic".  So parts are probably available if you need them.

I believe that's right, Taylor, except L&R put a roller into the frizzen (not the frizzen spring)--how "classic" that is, I'm not sure.
I'm glad you like the rifle!

Hey, I think this is my 100th post on this forum! I'm a "full member" at last!

Gregg

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« Reply #21 on: January 02, 2016, 04:51:12 AM »
I really like the polished steel and honey maple together. I think LMF just sold some stain.