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Offline sonny

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double triggers installed on single trigger rifle
« on: April 20, 2009, 06:41:17 PM »
I have a lehigh rifle with a single trigger an cannot get used to the trigger pull.I get target/sight /trigger freeze an trying to squeeze off the perfect shot when everything is perfect is tough!....darn thing won't go when i want it......Can double triggers be installed on a sigle trigger rifle???.thanks............sonny

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Re: double triggers installed on single trigger rifle
« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2009, 07:02:10 PM »
Sure can, but not without some monkey-ing around. The trigger guard might have to be replaced for one. Which means you'll either have to cut the lugs off the new one and repositioning them, to fit into the existing lug inletts File the sides down alittle to get the new triggerguard to fit in the front inlet and  for the rear extension, you'll have to play with that. As for the trigger plate. Hoping that the wrist is thin enough to get those set triggers to work, will require some bending of the trigger plate, followed up by some careful filing of the plate to get the plate completely flush. If you need to go deeper with the triggers to get them to work, you might think of filing the bottom of the stock alittle, sand the bottom, and re-stain and  refinish that area. If you have no problem getting the triggers to work, then put some masking tape, 2 layers on the stock on each side of trigger plate. This will help keeping the damage to a minimum.   ... Geo.

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Re: double triggers installed on single trigger rifle
« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2009, 07:12:23 PM »
George's answer is technically correct but it really all depends on the shape of the trigger bow and how deep the wrist is.  No Lehigh is going to have a really deep wrist but some might have a wrist so shallow that there won't be much room under the sear bar for the set mechanisms.  If you post a photo of the side of your rifle in the trigger/lock area and give the inside dimensions of the bow, many of us call tell you how much trouble this will be at a glance.

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Re: double triggers installed on single trigger rifle
« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2009, 09:55:08 PM »
Buy a single set trigger and avoid all that hassle.

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Re: double triggers installed on single trigger rifle
« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2009, 02:19:56 AM »
thanks for the replys i think i should find a person to do this an not try it myself.........sonny

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Re: double triggers installed on single trigger rifle
« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2009, 02:59:12 AM »
thanks for the replys i think i should find a person to do this an not try it myself.........sonny
It is a fact that a 'normal' single trigger can be worked into a nice crisp and nice let off - 
Actually working the lock will do more towards said nice let off.   Slicking up the lock innards, thinning the sear spring, main spring slicking the sear nose etc. but should be done by an experienced hand!

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Re: double triggers installed on single trigger rifle
« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2009, 05:25:00 AM »
Over the years we sold a lot of those Isaac Haines kits.   They were made with a single trigger inlet, as well as having
the trigger guard inlet.  It was a lot of work to get a double set trigger to fit and work with all of this inletting done,
which is the same situation you are in.   Someone also suggested a single set trigger.....I don't think that would work
either....did you ever see how high that flag is on a single set when in the relaxed position?   I would first do what Roger
suggested, work on the lock, and possibly install a new trigger that is pinned properly thru the wood, high in the stock.
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« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2009, 01:53:58 PM »
I ahve one with a single set trigger, and admit it requires setting before cocking the gun as in some of the single throw DST's.  Would not use one again, but thought it might be better for one that insists on a set trigger.  I do not like any set triggers anymore and prefer to work over a good single trigger, but I do not match shoot anymore either.

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Re: double triggers installed on single trigger rifle
« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2009, 04:37:46 PM »
I have a lehigh rifle with a single trigger an cannot get used to the trigger pull.I get target/sight /trigger freeze an trying to squeeze off the perfect shot when everything is perfect is tough!....darn thing won't go when i want it......Can double triggers be installed on a sigle trigger rifle???.thanks............sonny

Do, or have someone who knows how, do a trigger job on the rifle first. It should be easy to make a 2-3 pound trigger on the rifle that is safe.
And see if this solves the problem. Its non-intrusive and may do the trick.

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Re: double triggers installed on single trigger rifle
« Reply #9 on: April 21, 2009, 04:51:17 PM »
I have a lehigh rifle with a single trigger an cannot get used to the trigger pull.I get target/sight /trigger freeze an trying to squeeze off the perfect shot when everything is perfect is tough!....darn thing won't go when i want it......Can double triggers be installed on a sigle trigger rifle???.thanks............sonny

When I first read this, I had just come from a shoot and my reaction was that I had the same problem with my set trigger rifle.  I could not seem to keep the sights lined up while I squeezed the trigger.

Do, or have someone who knows how, do a trigger job on the rifle first. It should be easy to make a 2-3 pound trigger on the rifle that is safe.
And see if this solves the problem. Its non-intrusive and may do the trick.

Dan

I agree with this.  Before going to all the work to cobble a set trigger in your rifle, be sure that the simple trigger is tuned adequately.  I have had very good luck with simple triggers.

Good Luck!
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Re: double triggers installed on single trigger rifle
« Reply #10 on: April 21, 2009, 06:05:33 PM »
I have put double set's in those rifles that Don is talking about. It takes extra care, work and planning to make it come out right and look good but it can be done. I would hate to fit one to a finished rifle though.
My hunting rifle has a simple single trigger. It has a trigger pull of 2 pounds. I can actually shoot it better than my double sets. Less mechanical stuff between my trigger finger and sear bar. Less jar also.
I wouldn't go down to 2 pounds in a hunting rifle especially if gloves are to be used. I order a couple of sear springs when I do this kind of tuning and keep one with about 4 pounds for glove work.
If the lock is tuned right the entire thing will work smooth as glass. You must be real careful with a 2 pound and a 4 pound will really surprise you.
Be sure and get someone who really knows what they are doing to tune your lock for you. Though it's pretty simple if you've done it a few times.
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Re: double triggers installed on single trigger rifle
« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2009, 12:13:48 AM »
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Buy a single set trigger and avoid all that hassle.

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Re: double triggers installed on single trigger rifle
« Reply #12 on: April 22, 2009, 08:15:30 AM »
Double or single set trigger you also will need to cut the tumbler for the fly or replace it with new tumbler with fly install to do the job right, myself tune the lock.

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Re: double triggers installed on single trigger rifle
« Reply #13 on: April 23, 2009, 07:28:29 PM »
I do not have it handy at this time to find the quote, but an English hunter adventurer wrote that a single trigger at 4 pounds should be all a hunter needs.  His comment was aimed at set triggers.  Note that English game rifles are single trigger.  As to target shooting.  Almost all the top shots I knew used set triggers.  One individual that used a well tuned single trigger on rifles he built would win a few individual matches but I do not think he won an aggregate.  Whether that was his shooting ability or the trigger, I cannot say.  He could clean house with a pistol however.

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Re: double triggers installed on single trigger rifle
« Reply #14 on: April 23, 2009, 09:28:29 PM »
I have the Walter Cain single set trigger in two of my guns and they work great. You do have to set them before cocking the hammer. They are the only one's I ever used that I was happy with.

Bill
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