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La Longue Carabine

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Here's a Couple of my First's....
« on: June 26, 2009, 01:06:59 AM »
I've had a passion for the 18th and 19th century way of life, for as long as i can remember. So back in late 80's early 90's i bought my first percussion cap muzzleloader, a .50 cal Hawken. I knew that now i had to have me a shooters bag to go with my new rifle, so i found a huge roll of scrap leather that the company i worked for had tossed out and i made me a bag.  And up until about 2 years ago, i did not even know people like most of you here, even existed. (Modern day Renactors) Since then i've made a couple more items, but after seeing some of the talented craftsmen on here and a couple of other muzzleloading sites, i'am almost to ashamed to show my stuff. A true craftsman i ain't.... ::) Here lately i've been a little extra motivated to be more creative.

So here are a few of my firsts and starting in order of their creation... :) Try to keep the laughing down to a bare minium..... ;D


My very first "Shooters Bag".




Here's my 2nd Bag, that i just made 2 months ago.




Here's my very first attemt at a Scrimshaw Powder Horn..... :o  This was done about 2 weeks ago. It didn't turn out exactly how i had planned it. To much dye in the pot and i left it in there way toooo loooong..... :-[  So with a little creative salvage work, this is what we come up with.....It's unique if nothing else... ;D








Now this ain't nothing really special at all. This is a Track of the Wolf "Hawk" that i bought off a fella that was just plain jane, so i just spruced it up a tad bit with some darker color and a tad bit of engraving. Going to add some brass tacks, when they get here... :D





This say's, "Ole Reliable", but the picture is so dark it's hard to read.

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Re: Here's a Couple of my First's....
« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2009, 06:29:24 AM »
I rather like the powder horn, because it is unique. It is a one-of-a-kind personalized, customized item. Once you look at it a couple times the white ink on a dark background looks OK, but I expect it will darken some over time.
And the almost straight horn is interesting in the way it gradually changes color from brown to black.
By all means keep them. Otherwise one day you'll wish you had.

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« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2009, 03:11:07 PM »
 Unique horn, form the first pic I thought it was flat. The engraving is really well done. For a first I would say you are headed in the right direction.

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La Longue Carabine

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« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2009, 08:44:35 PM »
Unique horn, form the first pic I thought it was flat. The engraving is really well done. For a first I would say you are headed in the right direction.

Tim C.

   
Thank you fella's, like i said earlier, the horn didn't turn out as i had planed. It was supposed to have a cocoa brown neck and a light tan body, but like a moron i didn't read the bottle of dye and it turned out to be concentrated and i used too much. If that wasn't bad enough i left it in the dye bath to long. Oh well, you live and learn from your mistakes and soon i'll be giving it another try.

Danny B.

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« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2009, 03:41:03 AM »
Danny, Not too worry about how your first projects always turn out whether success or not.  In mine eyes the first attempt at all to new something will always be a success for at least making the attempt.   For all three you have many successess, the least of which is the valuable experiences and knowledge you gained along the way.  The horn engraving (not scrimshaw, as I'm always reminded of) is very good and I liked the treatment you handled (pun  ;D) to the hawk.   Definitely an eye for style and different.
Gary
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La Longue Carabine

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« Reply #5 on: June 29, 2009, 04:08:20 PM »
Danny, Not too worry about how your first projects always turn out whether success or not.  In mine eyes the first attempt at all to new something will always be a success for at least making the attempt.   For all three you have many successess, the least of which is the valuable experiences and knowledge you gained along the way.  The horn engraving (not scrimshaw, as I'm always reminded of) is very good and I liked the treatment you handled (pun  ;D) to the hawk.   Definitely an eye for style and different.
Gary
Thank you Gary, i appreciate your comments. This has inspired me to do a whole lot better on my next horn attempt. I bought the Sibley book and have 2 raw horns on the way, and i can't wait to get started on them..

Oh and what is the difference between Scrimshaw and engraving, i really thought it was one and the same??? Which goes to show, your never to old to learn something new.. ;)
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« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2009, 08:40:46 AM »
I could not agree more with G. Elsenbeck's post, well said. 

Thomas Edison tried about 2,000 ways to make a viable filament for the light bulb before he succeeded.  THAT'S determination.  Grin.

Can't begin to tell you all the mistakes I made in my early years of using black powder rifles and trying to recreate 18th or 19th century living.  I had no one to mentor me for the first years, nor did I know about the NMLRA when I bought my .50 caliber Thompson Center rifle in January 1972 while home on Boot Camp leave.  My Grandpa, a WWI veteran, helped me make my first powder horn and he said the spout hole had to be opened up a little.  Unfortunately he drilled through the body of the horn, and he was so embarrassed he was mortified, but we fixed it so it looked authentic and I used it for about 10 years until I made my first horn.  I still have that horn because Grandpa and I worked on it together. 

So, when I got to Camp Pendleton in 1972, I went to Tandy and bought a large piece of split cowhide and fashioned my first shot pouch/hunting bag.  It was solid, but the bag scrunched in when I used it.  There were a number of things wrong with it that using it showed me.  So I had to make a second and further ones over the years.  The first hunting bag became a storage pouch in a full sized Tipi a few years later and was actually pretty good for that. 

Then I was transfered to Okinawa in October of 1971.  When I made Corporal in '72, I decided to spend some of my better pay on a set of "buckskins."  I went to the tailors out in town, picked out the leather, showed them examples of what I wanted and specified it be hand sewn and with NO zippers or anything "modern" on it.  It came back with a zipper along the side of the shirt, but I figured I could take that out and sew up the sides.   I sewed a rabbit skin cape on it that worked nicely in the cold,but looked rather silly when looking back a couple years later.  I bought a hard leather hat from Dixie Gun works believing that to be authentic and I think I only wore it twice before I made it into something else.  I did buy a Green river knife and made a pretty authentic tack sheath for it.

Fortunately, when I was transfered to Quantico to become a Rifle Team Equipment Repairman (NM Armorer), I ran across another Marine who would become my best friend in life and real mentor on muzzleloading and primitive doin's.  He knew the faults with my stuff, but he also knew my heart was right.   So OFF we go to the NMLRA spring shoot on the primitive range a few months later.  Yep, I was one of the original "Japanese Mountain Men" as the Buckskin Report used to say(due to my Okinawa made skins) when I showed up.  Back then, there were only about a dozen full sized lodges (tipi's) and maybe 40 lean to's or period tentage on the primitive range. 

Most of the folks on the primitive range were welcoming and offered advice on a myriad of subjects to improve my stuff.  Of course, a couple folks just scoffed.  Another guy who became a very dear friend later on, originally looked at me like I was from another planet and was rather short, but not hostile.  A couple days later he walked up to me and said nothing, but pulled my knife out of the tack scabbard while I stood there and tried his knife for fit in it.  Then he proclaimed, "I'll borrow that today for the Trade Gun match."  I took it off and handed it to him and off he went without another word.  I found out later on that day he had forgotten his knife sheath and that was his way to test me, to see if I was worth spending effort to help me.  When he returned the sheath that night, he was completely different and he taught me a lot over the years. 

Over the years I've learned to hand sew real buckskins and period clothes, make authentic shot pouches and cartridge and cap boxes, knives, sheaths and a myriad of other things, though I've never built my own rifle.  I'm going to have to get going on that.  I've done primitive, War of 1812, Rev War, French and Indian War, and War of Southron Independence.  I'm not very active nowadays, but occasionally I get out in the uniform of a Private Soldier in the 42nd Royal Highland Regiment (The Black Watch) at Colonial Williamsburg and some other events.   A short kilt is pretty comfortable in the heat and humidity of a Virginia Summer.  Grin.

The good news is that along the Muzzleloading Trek in life, there is always something old that is new and things you want to make or improve to keep things interesting.  Forums such as this are a Godsend, especially to folks new at the hobby and even for those who have been around a good bit.





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« Reply #7 on: July 01, 2009, 06:55:14 AM »
Danny,
From what I understand (and I may be mistaken) the term "scrimshaw" to the handiwork done by whalers on bones, teeth, baleen, etc.  It is loosely applied to the engraving on ivory and horns.  Engraving is the proper term.
Scott

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Re: Here's a Couple of my First's....
« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2009, 06:00:58 PM »
Re: those hangy down beaded straps on that hawk...How do you throw it w/those on the handle..... :o  or don't you?

La Longue Carabine

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Re: Here's a Couple of my First's....
« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2009, 09:42:15 PM »
Re: those hangy down beaded straps on that hawk...How do you throw it w/those on the handle..... :o  or don't you?
That's why the leather grip is laced. I simply untie and slip it off and its ready for throwing.... ;)

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Re: Here's a Couple of my First's....
« Reply #10 on: July 03, 2009, 03:07:22 AM »
Danny,

I enjoyed looking at the photos of your articles. They got me to thinking about the fact that many of the firearms and hunting related items that the hunters of the 1700 and 1800s used were made by the hunter himself out of necessity if nothing else. I think it is reasonable to believe that many of those horns, bags, etc. were not made by accomplished craftsmen, but by a hunter with a need. While I truly appreciate the things made by remarkably gifted individuals then or now, I also appreciate those made by us mere mortals. Keep up the good work! ;D