ammonia ?

[jim m]

I've seen ammonia mentioned in several posts and was wondering what ammonia you are refering to. the ammonia I have worked with in refrigeration boils off at 28 below zero farenhiet, so I know that won't work. is it household ammonia or is there a little stronger solution available.

[Eric Kettenburg]

I just use plain old grocery store ammonia. 

[Jim Filipski]

I just use plain old grocery store ammonia. 

Yes just plain household ammonia in the bottle at the grocery store ( NH3 + Water) Makes a grand 18th century  style cake by the way!
Jim

[Acer Saccharum]

Oh, goodie, can we trade recipes? i have a great one for pie crust.

[lew wetzel]

can i get a piece of that with a cup of coffee.i would gladly give you two shillings..

[Z. Buck]

wow Tom, i have never seen such a beautiful pie, with a lock next to it no less, how delicious, what a way of mixing passions, food and gun building

[B Shipman]

My wife's been visiting relatives for the last week and I'm really hungry. Will you marry me. Then again, there's nothing to restrain me from drinking manhattans. Forget it. I'll eat out. Good looking pie though.

[Trkdriver99]

Dog, that pie looks good. You gonna post the recipe? I sure could use a big ole chunk of that with my morning diet Mtn Dew. I bet the cake is good too.
Ronnie

[Evil Monkey]

I just use plain old grocery store ammonia. 

Yes just plain household ammonia in the bottle at the grocery store ( NH3 + Water) Makes a grand 18th century  style cake by the way!
Jim

Jim, are you sure about that?. NH3 is ammonium nitrate (AKA anhydrous ammonia) which is a source of nitrogen applied as agricultural fertilizer in a gas state. It has a great affinity for water and therefore is easily added to water but I didn't know that grocery store ammonia was just NH3 + water. Interesting stuff.

[deano]

So are the lock parts baked in the pie and allowed to slowly cool on a window sill to anneal them correctly?

[Acer Saccharum]

SO, how does the ammonia neutralize the acid? is ammonia a base?

What part does ammonia play in cake?

[Evil Monkey]

So are the lock parts baked in the pie and allowed to slowly cool on a window sill to anneal them correctly?

You laugh but IIRC, Arnold Griebel used to temper his gravers by putting them in his wifes cake batter and when the cake was baked, the gravers would be tempered.

[Jim Filipski]

Jim, are you sure about that?. NH3 is ammonium nitrate (AKA anhydrous ammonia) which is a source of nitrogen applied as agricultural fertilizer in a gas state. It has a great affinity for water and therefore is easily added to water but I didn't know that grocery store ammonia was just NH3 + water. Interesting stuff.

No I'm not sure(?)  I just use it for baking cakes! you guys use it for neutralizing browning
Jim

[Jim Filipski]

Just checked: Store bought Household Ammonia  is NH3 +H2O (Ammonia Hydroxide +water)

I believe aqueous ammonia was used as a leavening agent in the 18th & 19th Century
I will post the recipe for "The Cake"  when I get home Great for annealing I'm sure
Jim

[Don Tripp]

Re the original post:

I use regular household ammonia to change the appearance of cherry and oak (particularly white oak). Anhydrous ammonia may be available in rural areas but apparently should not be released into the atmosphere. I used to work for an answering service that took calls for Michigan's version of the EPA and whenever some farmer would release a little into the air he would get fined.

Easy Off oven cleaner reportedly works good on cherry. I'm going to try that on some scrap that I have before I treat a stock or a piece of furniture with it.

I wouldn't substitute the Easy Off in the cake recipe. By the way I've got a slew of recipes too. Maybe we can start a new forum.. Call it the Baking Powder Room

[Roger Fisher]

Re the original post:

I use regular household ammonia to change the appearance of cherry and oak (particularly white oak). Anhydrous ammonia may be available in rural areas but apparently should not be released into the atmosphere. I used to work for an answering service that took calls for Michigan's version of the EPA and whenever some farmer would release a little into the air he would get fined.

Easy Off oven cleaner reportedly works good on cherry. I'm going to try that on some scrap that I have before I treat a stock or a piece of furniture with it.

I wouldn't substitute the Easy Off in the cake recipe. By the way I've got a slew of recipes too. Maybe we can start a new forum.. Call it the Baking Powder Room

Or otherwise known as the "little outhouse on the hill"

[jim m]

ammonia works to neutralize acid because of it's ph. on the ph scale anything below 7 is acidic, and ammonia is extremely alkaline with a ph of 14

[Acer Saccharum]

Oh, man, you guys are bad. Somebody monkeying around with my post....like putting my picture in there,  and then  the Baking "Powder Room."

tom

jim M, that's what I was wondering. It's REALLY basic.

Would ammonia help my hair?

[Jim Filipski]

Tom,
I'm thinking if you put your engraving helmet on no one will notice
Jim

[jim m]

Acer, might help the hair, but the face, well, uh ,well I take the 5th  in it's pure form, anhydrous ammonia is so caustic it will destoy your muscus membranes and lungs. it's deadly in concentrated form, but when released to the atmosphere breaks down into it's basic elements, nitrogen and hydrogen.

[Acer Saccharum]

I got most my 'do' pretty well under control, but that big wad of bed head in the back refuses to lay down properly.

Maybe Dennis could help me with my hair problems. He seems to have plenty, must know how to manage all that hair better than most guys.

[Long John]

For those who are interested a short chemistry lesson:

Ammonia is NH₃.  Anhydrous ammonia is just ammonia without any water.  Usually ammonia is dissolved in water.  When ammonia is dissolved in water it ionizes the water formin NH₄OH. The OH part of hydrous ammonia (ammonia dissolved in water) combines with the H part of an acid like HCl (hydrochloric acid) or HNO₃ (nitric acid) to form water.  That's how ammonia "neutralizes" an acid.  Keep in mind that the NH₄ part of the ammonia and the NO₃ part of the nitric acid are still in solution.  If you boil the water off you will get ammonium nitrate, NH₄NO₃.  Ammonium nitrate will behave just like the potassium nitrate in black powder; the nitrate part will break down and yield free oxygen that combines with the carbon in the charcoal to produce carbon dioxide gas (BOOM!)

I hope this clears up any missunderstandings from earlier posts, here.

Best Regards,

John Cholin