Author Topic: Tryon-made Flintlock Longrifle (Read 3523 times)

Ruster · « **on:** July 08, 2020, 06:26:34 PM »

I own this original flintlock longrifle. Although nearly 200 years old, it is in exceptional condition.

Avlrc · « **Reply #1 on:** July 08, 2020, 06:57:05 PM »

Congratulations & you are very fortunate to be the caretaker to such a nice piece of art & history. Very nice article & great picture.

blienemann · « **Reply #2 on:** July 08, 2020, 07:13:04 PM »

Agreed, word for word! Thank you for posting, Bob

WESTbury · « **Reply #3 on:** July 08, 2020, 08:02:31 PM »

Wow, just outstanding. Thanks for sharing a great rifle.

You realize, of course, that you now have a problem. As a member of the LRF, each successive posting of any rifle must exceed your previous posting, in every respect.

Ruster · « **Reply #4 on:** July 10, 2020, 03:23:26 PM »

Here's another photo of this beautiful firearm hanging over my fireplace.

WESTbury · « **Reply #5 on:** July 10, 2020, 04:52:31 PM »

Doesn't get any better than that. Nice display.

Is the horn an antique?

Ruster · « **Reply #6 on:** July 10, 2020, 05:21:16 PM »

No, the horn was made a year ago by master horner Lee Larkin. It honors my 5-time great grandfather who served in the Revolutionary War. He was a Fort Ticonderoga, Saratoga, and Valley Forge.

Panzerschwein · « **Reply #7 on:** July 10, 2020, 05:54:05 PM »

Nice pineapple inlay.

Back then, pineapples were extremely desirable and expensive. They were used for ornamentation.

Keith Zimmerman · « **Reply #8 on:** July 10, 2020, 10:41:49 PM »

I hope u dont burn in your fireplace with the gun hanging over it. Beautiful gun. Congrats!

mr. no gold · « **Reply #9 on:** July 10, 2020, 10:44:26 PM »

Beautiful rifle and in superb, new like condition. Nice to see that not all of the great early guns were used up. Have to wonder if this wasn't a special order for an important customer back then. Thank you very much for showing up here with your extra fine rifle.
Dick

WESTbury · « **Reply #10 on:** July 10, 2020, 10:47:45 PM »

Ruster,

Morphy's had a reasonably nice NH 1st Battalion Charleville up for auction very recently. Unfortunately, it went for an unreasonable price.

Ruster · « **Reply #11 on:** February 15, 2024, 06:23:03 PM »

Here are some better photos of the Tyron Flintlock Rifle. Click on an image to enlarge.

DaveM · « **Reply #12 on:** February 15, 2024, 09:26:55 PM »

Very nice! I like the “P” barrel mark, what does that stand for?

Carl Young · « **Reply #13 on:** February 15, 2024, 09:35:24 PM »

Thank you for your generosity in posting these great photos of your magnificent rifle! A treasure that many of us here will appreciate and enjoy.

Regards,
Carl

Daryl · « **Reply #14 on:** February 16, 2024, 05:52:34 AM »

I can't tell in the photos, but is the muzzle crown filed out, on the grooves and lands?

Shreckmeister · « **Reply #15 on:** February 16, 2024, 07:18:31 PM »

Wonderful example!

Avlrc · « **Reply #16 on:** February 16, 2024, 09:41:34 PM »

Stunning. Awesome pics.

Ruster · « **Reply #17 on:** February 17, 2024, 06:42:08 PM »

Question # 1, above: What does the “P” on the barrel stand for?

Answer: The “P” is a proof mark. It shows the barrel was tested and found to be safe after successfully handling a black powder charge significantly greater than normal.

Question #2, above: Is the muzzle crown filed out, on the grooves and lands?

Answer: The muzzle shows the early style of rifling with wide lands and narrow grooves. A hand operated rifling machine was likely used to create the spiral channels inside the barrel. Each of the seven grooves was cut separately by repeatedly twisting a wooden rod with an imbedded metal cutter through the bore.

Daryl · « **Reply #18 on:** February 17, 2024, 09:59:21 PM »

That wasn't the answer I was looking for. I know full well how these barrels were rifled.
I asked if the lands and grooves were filed out at the muzzle, as some were, thus the appearance if the same as the interior of the bore
but filed larger to allow loading of a snug combination. If there was no relief crowning in effect, the gun would likely not produce any better
accuracy than a smoothbore (with no rifling) as a combination that would hold in the rifling would not be loadable.

smylee grouch · « **Reply #19 on:** February 18, 2024, 08:12:19 PM »

Very nice rifle with a lot of " Phild " traits.

Ruster · « **Reply #20 on:** February 18, 2024, 10:12:41 PM »

Quote from: Daryl on February 17, 2024, 09:59:21 PM

I asked if the lands and grooves were filed out at the muzzle....

I don't know. I "Googled" early flintlock rifle barrels and found several with similar muzzles. Here is one of them, a rifle made in New England.

JTR · « **Reply #21 on:** February 18, 2024, 10:45:11 PM »

Daryl, It doesn't look like the muzzle was coned, as the grooves are still very deep at the muzzle.

DaveM · « **Reply #22 on:** February 19, 2024, 12:43:11 AM »

With the “P” mark, I wondered whether it was issued by the city of Philadelphia as an offcer gun with the P as a city mark. I don’t recall ever seeing a rifle of this period with a P that stands for “proof”, but if so that is interesting.

jdm · « **Reply #23 on:** February 19, 2024, 01:35:34 AM »

My personal opinion Is Tryon put it on for effect and it doesn't stand for anything. Sort of a selling tool. He also put it on some of his trade gun barrels. Derringer put a star on his trade guns. Just opinion I haven't talked to Tryon or Derringer about it or read it anywhere. Food for thought.

Great rifle ! Thank you for posting it. Your a luckey man.

Daryl · « **Reply #24 on:** February 21, 2024, 02:34:13 AM »

Quote from: JTR on February 18, 2024, 10:45:11 PM

Daryl, It doesn't look like the muzzle was coned, as the grooves are still very deep at the muzzle.

I didn't say coned, I asked if both the lands and grooves had been filed out deeper. This picture shows it quite vividly, to a depth into the bore of perhaps just over 1/8".
Filing out of the lands and grooves was a VERY common trait of Jaeger Rifles. This is VERY evident in the wonderful Jaeger book Taylor bout from Chamber's I think.
This barrel below appears to have been filed more deeply in the grooves, than the lands. This would still assist somewhat with loading.

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