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Offline Leems709

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Possible Henry Ledford
« on: January 05, 2023, 04:52:30 PM »
I’m looking for information on a possible Henry Ledford halfstock percussion .40 rifle that I have recently acquired. I am new to collecting antique guns but decided that this was a decent place to start. I’m interested to know when this rifle may have been made, any significance to the inlay symbols, what school this is classified as, etc.

Unfortunately it looks like someone had painted this gun red at one point and then sanded it off due to little flecks of red in some small crevices. Other than that, this gun was well used but taken care of I would say. It’s not his best work or in most perfect condition, but I believe it certainly could be worse.

I do have a question regarding the possibility of a flintlock to percussion conversion? I ask this question as there is what appears to be a filled in hole on the lock plate and a square hole where the drum fits.

Any and all information that y’all could give me on this firearm and/or about Henry Ledford and his workshop would be greatly appreciated!
























Offline mbriggs

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Re: Possible Henry Ledford
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2023, 07:08:09 PM »
Welcome Leems709,

That is a nice Henry Ledford rifle to start collecting with.

In 2021 I published a book titled "The Longrifle Makers of the Davidson School. "  The book is 314 pages long and contains detailed photos of 35 Henry Ledford rifles and a large biography on him. The book sells for $60 plus $5 postage.

Henry Ledford was born in 1796 and died in 1856. He lived in Davidson County,  N.C.  He and his wife Catherine are buried beside each other in the Bethany Church Cemetery.

In John Bivins 1968 book "Longrifles of North Carolina" Bivins speculated that Davidson gunsmiths Henry
Ledford and Andrew Long trained in Salem (10 miles north) under Christoph Vogler.  There is a strong similarity in their early rifles to Vogler's work. I recently spent two years in the Salem Moravian archives researching the Vogler family. While there are frequent complaints about Christoph bringing in outsiders in to work in his gunshop, the names Henry Ledford or Andrew Long never appear.

From studying the photos you posted, I believe your rifle has always been a half stock and has always been percussion. The lock might have been originally flintlock,  but was converted before it was installed on the rifle. The silver inlays are typical to what are seen on Ledford rifles. I think your rifle was made in the early 1840's. His later rifles have more Jamestown School features as that is what was selling.

Henry Ledford longrifles are not rare. I have owned over a dozen of them and currently have three Eagle patchbox rifles by him in my collection. I recently purchased for resale an original flintlock, fullstock, signed Henry Ledford rifle that is available to add to your budding collection. It came from  a family in Iredell County, N.C.

If you want more information please email me directly at mbriggs@callcoverage.com.

Thanks,
Michael Briggs










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Offline RAT

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Re: Possible Henry Ledford
« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2023, 02:45:02 AM »
I have doubts the lock was ever a flintlock. The spot your arrow points to is far too low and to the rear to be a hole for a frizzen screw. I also don't see any indication of filled holes for a frizzen spring.
Bob

Offline Leems709

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Re: Possible Henry Ledford
« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2023, 04:29:06 AM »
Thank you for the wonderful info Mr. Briggs!
I have sent you an email regarding the flintlock you mentioned.

In the future as I collect more longrifles made by Ledford, is there anything in particular that I should really pay attention to or look out for?

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Re: Possible Henry Ledford
« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2023, 07:43:26 PM »
The screw end the arrow points to might be a screw to hold the main spring at one time. Although it's not in the exact position such a screw might be in. The easiest way to see what's what, is to take the lock off, and take a look. Also, keep in mind the lock might not be original to the gun. The fit to the inlet looks a lot loose, and I doubt that a good maker like Ledford would hack out a hole like that for the percussion drum. That's not to say that the lock hasn't been there for a long time though.
All in all, it's a lot nice rifle than my first one!
John
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Re: Possible Henry Ledford
« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2023, 11:52:14 PM »
Thanks, I thought it might just be west but wasn’t sure.

Here is an image of the inside.




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Re: Possible Henry Ledford
« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2023, 03:43:24 AM »
Looks like the screw in question is a pin used to hold the finial end of the mainspring. There isn't a section of bolster in that area to do the job. The mainspring itself could be a replacement.
Bob

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Re: Possible Henry Ledford
« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2023, 05:48:32 PM »
Always nice to see another NC rifle discovered, I was raised in Winston-Salem!

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Re: Possible Henry Ledford
« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2023, 07:23:34 PM »
So, the main spring is a replacement, and maybe/likely the lock, but in the long run neither is a big deal.

It's your first collector gun and probably not your last, and overall is a pretty nice rifle. If you maintain the interest, I'll bet down the road you'll have some much nicer rifles to fondle, and will look back on this first one with a smile! 

John
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