New Goex Powder

[Stoner creek]

 I shot 50 rounds of the new Goex 3f powder today. It was fast, consistent, and clean. Absolutely no complaints here. It shoots as clean as Old Eyensford and performance is close to the same. That’s good news in my opinion.

[Bassdog1]

That is excellent news I am a big fan of Olde E if they have decided to produce just one powder, I am glad that the performance is at that level.

[Stoner creek]

I haven’t done a side by side test of this powder versus the other brands out there but this stuff looks to have a slightly smaller granule size than other 3f powder. Stay tuned!
W

[Daryl]

Looking forward to it.

[alacran]

Good news indeed Wayne.

[ScottH]

Thanks for the report Wayne!

[Jerry]

Stoner Creek, Where did you purchase your Goex made powder. Jerry

[Spalding]

Stoner Creek, Where did you purchase your Goex made powder. Jerry

Friendship had it, Jerry. Saw the semi-truck bringing it in on Friday. They received 1800 lbs. $24 a pound.

Bob

[Stoner creek]

Stoner Creek, Where did you purchase your Goex made powder. Jerry

The powder magazine at Friendship

[83nubnEC]

Put in an order for Swiss 3F from Graf and Sons today for 5# @ $31 a pound with no shipping and no hazmat. Just WI sales tax!

[Mule Brain]

Is the pound price good as well?   

[83nubnEC]

Placed my order to Graf and Sons on Wed(12th) and received it today (15th) in WI . That is quick service! $30.99 a pound  3F Swiss -with free shipping, no Hazmat, only WI sales tax.

[Bob Roller]

The Swiss may or may not be better,marginally but if we want to KEEP and use black powder then supporting the ONE and ONLY American maker might be a good idea.I bought my first pound of DuPont 3fg in 1951  for $1,50 and now it's what at one time was a weeks pay.
The good report on GOEX is very good news even if I haven't fired a shot with it since 2001.
Bob Roller

[alacran]

A friend gave me three pounds of Dupont 3f. The lot # on the cans are the same and the date is 1963.
Unfortunately he only gave me 3 lbs. It shoots very well and it is very consistent.
I will be buying Goex in June at Friendship. I have tried Swiss and have not found it to be significantly better than Goex to justify its significantly higher price.

[83nubnEC]

Will just have to wait and see what the actual price per pound will be when Goex gets to the regular market and available throughout the country. I agree Goex Old Eynsford 3F is a great black powder and I hope it comes back at a reasonable price per pound!

[Dphariss]

Will just have to wait and see what the actual price per pound will be when Goex gets to the regular market and available throughout the country. I agree Goex Old Eynsford 3F is a great black powder and I hope it comes back at a reasonable price per pound!

Bill Knight, Mad Monk, thought that Olde Enysford was not really black powder due to the smell of the smoke. He also told me that the components that Goex uses (soecifically maple charcoal) were not conducive to making a really good blackpowder. He figured they had added something to get the performance up to that of Swiss. But he never got to take it apart and look at it as he did Goex sometime before. He was the one that told me why there was so much waste in the Goex made at Moosic.

[Dphariss]

The Swiss may or may not be better,marginally but if we want to KEEP and use black powder then supporting the ONE and ONLY American maker might be a good idea.I bought my first pound of DuPont 3fg in 1951  for $1,50 and now it's what at one time was a weeks pay.
The good report on GOEX is very good news even if I haven't fired a shot with it since 2001.
Bob Roller

I don’t think BP will go out of production in the US anytime soon. Given other factors they might stop commercial sales. Their primary income is from the US Military for fuses and boosters. That is why the current plant is on a military reservation. It was a backup plant in case of war. When Goex finally REALLY blew up the Moosic plant they moved production to the Minden plant. Since it was ready to roll pretty much. I suppose its possible they could have come up with a better charcoal. But its not needed for the military so I doubt it. Time will tell. MLs, especially round ball guns don’t really need very good powder anyway compared to bullet guns and the brass suppository types. The fact that Goex was so bad (especially from Moosic 15% or some waste per can) in suppository guns they cooked up a formula for Olde Enysford.

[MuskratMike]

Not sure what people have against Goex. Last year I made 3 loads from 3 different lots of Goex. Three shots from each batch. Shot through a chronograph and all nine shots virtually the same. Don't know what others are finding but this old guy will stick to Goex (that and I have a lifetime supply).

[wolf]

i am no chemist, all i know is that i shoot tiny groups with goex. it doesn't build up a hard ring in the chamber like Swiss, it is made in America, and i also have a lifetime supply,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

[Bassdog1]

I purchased 2 cases of Olde Eynsford when it was available. I have shot over a case of it and never noticed a difference in smell but that is not saying much for me. I do really like its performance but never thought about how they improved it. I just figured they used better components and stricter processing methods. Interesting to think that it might not be real black powder. I would have assumed that it would have fallen under the substitute category for sales and storage regulations.

[okawbow]

I’m sure Old Eynsford is “real” black powder. I believe they adjusted the formula and possibly the charcoal to make it more like Swiss powder. It smells the same to me as Swiss, and is actually easier to load without wiping. It’s not quite as hot as Swiss, but I get as good or better accuracy in my chunk guns.

[hudson]

While at Friendship I purchased the new Goex 2F looked good right out of the container. I found it grouped right with old Goex all the way out to 200 yards with the old site setting.

[longcruise]

I shot 15 balls with the new goex last week with a 45 that I've been shooting with Scheutzen 3f for quite a long time.  Using the identical load and patch it shot just like the Scheutzen.   Fouling seems about the same as well. 

It's so similar that I plan to do a chrono comparison. 

[Daryl]

I have used Schutzen 2F in the .69. I had to increase the power charge to get the same groups and sighting as with the old GOEX I had been using since 1986 when that rifle was built and sighted. I have not had to change the sights  since then using GOEX, but with Schutzen powder I had to increase the charge. I have not shot O.E. in it.

[OldMtnMan]

Does the new Goex have a different name? Will they still make OE?