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Offline Feltwad

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Continental sxs Rifle
« on: October 25, 2023, 08:26:23 PM »
Enclosed are images of a original Continental sxs  percussion rifle in 16 gauge. The gun is fitted with set trigger  the hammers have a external safety  the patch  box has a button operated for opening , the stock is  continental walnut with a cheek piece  .  The barrels are  steel  both are rifled the left barrel has straight groves no twist but the right barrel has  a fast twist the breech of the barrels also the standing breech are inlaid with  gold and silver.
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Offline smylee grouch

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Re: Continental sxs Rifle
« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2023, 10:21:40 PM »
Interesting piece for sure. Does it have to have the triggers set to fire?

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Re: Continental sxs Rifle
« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2023, 12:07:54 AM »
Interesting piece for sure. Does it have to have the triggers set to fire?
No  but triggers have been set to suit  a shooter with the front trigger  fires the left barrel and the back trigger the right barrel, each hammer has a safety external   catch
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Re: Continental sxs Rifle
« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2023, 12:33:50 AM »
Ok, thanks for the info. That would be a great Boar or Bear gun.

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Re: Continental sxs Rifle
« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2023, 09:56:42 AM »
Although this thread is in the collectors forum   not much interest .
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Re: Continental sxs Rifle
« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2023, 02:07:35 PM »
Interesting, but I don't have much to say. I could give you the common "nice gun" response I suppose. Continental guns of that period are far less popular over here than British guns of the same era. I find all old guns interesting.

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Re: Continental sxs Rifle
« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2023, 02:25:27 PM »
Very nice Feltwad, thank you. One question though, the rear sight appears to me as not being square to the barrels, is that camera lens distortion? Seems a gun of that quality would get that right.
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Re: Continental sxs Rifle
« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2023, 02:51:28 PM »
Very nice Feltwad, thank you. One question though, the rear sight appears to me as not being square to the barrels, is that camera lens distortion? Seems a gun of that quality would get that right.
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Robby it is  square to the barrels it looks distorted in the image
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Re: Continental sxs Rifle
« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2023, 03:22:38 PM »
Interesting, but I don't have much to say. I could give you the common "nice gun" response I suppose. Continental guns of that period are far less popular over here than British guns of the same era. I find all old guns interesting.

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I think that Americans having been at war with the Germans in one century might be in part reason to ignore a fine German double rifle as this.
The inletting and the metal work is as fine as anything produced in England.
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Re: Continental sxs Rifle
« Reply #9 on: October 26, 2023, 04:50:24 PM »
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I think that Americans having been at war with the Germans in one century might be in part reason to ignore a fine German double rifle as this.
I don'r think so.  Otherwise, why would Jaegers, Mausers, fine German optics, and other stuff be so popular.
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Re: Continental sxs Rifle
« Reply #10 on: October 26, 2023, 05:54:28 PM »
Although this thread is in the collectors forum   not much interest .
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Feltwad, please don't confuse our lack of comments with a lack of interest. I, as many other folks, always follow your postings (but only infrequently post comments). With your typical quality photos and descriptions, there is seldom any need to seek further information. .

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Re: Continental sxs Rifle
« Reply #11 on: October 26, 2023, 06:02:17 PM »
Interesting, but I don't have much to say. I could give you the common "nice gun" response I suppose. Continental guns of that period are far less popular over here than British guns of the same era. I find all old guns interesting.

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I think that Americans having been at war with the Germans in one century might be in part reason to ignore a fine German double rifle as this.
The inletting and the metal work is as fine as anything produced in England.

I think it's because the German work is a little more harsh, severe and less refined as compared to English work. 

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Re: Continental sxs Rifle
« Reply #12 on: October 26, 2023, 06:06:14 PM »
I have a master for that trigger guard if anyone is interested in castings. I didn't know what it was for untill these pics.
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Re: Continental sxs Rifle
« Reply #13 on: October 26, 2023, 06:42:13 PM »
That should be a big seller ;)

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Re: Continental sxs Rifle
« Reply #14 on: October 26, 2023, 08:06:39 PM »
That should be a big seller ;)
That's why I haven't cast any yet! ;D
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Re: Continental sxs Rifle
« Reply #15 on: October 26, 2023, 08:37:51 PM »
I really appreciate this kind of post, and Feltwad's are always interesting. Although continental guns of this era weren’t in the direct line of influencing American longrifle development, they were parallel to our later percussion evolutions. The European guns of this period that I’ve studied are almost always better quality than the many more American ones I’ve been exposed to.

For this rifle, the unusual combination of a DOUBLE set trigger in front of the single “shotgun” trigger behind is very interesting. I am surprised to note that the right twist barrel is fired with the rear “shotgun” trigger, and the left "all-purpose”  barrel uses the double set front trigger. Am I interpreting that collectly? It’s the oppisite of what I would expect.  The interesting button release on the butt-trap cover is also a new one for me.

Keep up your posts, Feltwad. They are really appreciated, even silently.

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Re: Continental sxs Rifle
« Reply #16 on: October 27, 2023, 01:51:33 AM »
Thanks everyone  your comments are appreciated  will sought out more images of this gun  locks, trigger housing  patch box
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Re: Continental sxs Rifle
« Reply #17 on: October 27, 2023, 06:25:30 PM »
Its a very nice and interesting gun, Mr G.

a close up of the different parts, and how the triggers work would be grand.
I have not seen 3 triggers before.

Details and photos of the butt trap and release  would be wonderful too my old pal!

Hope you are still getting some shooting in at the crows and woodies!

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Re: Continental sxs Rifle
« Reply #18 on: October 28, 2023, 01:47:41 PM »

Enclose are extra images has promised





Type of fly in the sear and tumbler this lock works with the set trigger










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Re: Continental sxs Rifle
« Reply #19 on: October 28, 2023, 02:41:51 PM »
Thanks for posting more photos. I really like the less refined, severe and harsh German rifles.
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Re: Continental sxs Rifle
« Reply #20 on: October 28, 2023, 05:48:38 PM »
I had a rifle similar to this years ago, about .50 caliber. It also had one barrel with straight rifling. Anybody have any thoughts on why both are the same caliber but rifled differently? 
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Re: Continental sxs Rifle
« Reply #21 on: October 28, 2023, 07:01:38 PM »
I'm just guessing but a straight rifled Barre Might shoot shot better.  :-\

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Re: Continental sxs Rifle
« Reply #22 on: October 28, 2023, 07:25:40 PM »
Interesting, lots of gadgets, but not my cup of tea. The first thought that went through my mind seeing this was halloween. I think this kind of stuff is an acquired taste.

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Re: Continental sxs Rifle
« Reply #23 on: October 28, 2023, 09:56:53 PM »
Interesting, lots of gadgets, but not my cup of tea. The first thought that went through my mind seeing this was halloween. I think this kind of stuff is an acquired taste.
Hallo  ween it is always best to keep ones opinions too ones self we are all muzzle loaders which includes all disciplines
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Re: Continental sxs Rifle
« Reply #24 on: October 28, 2023, 10:32:07 PM »
If we were to keep our opinions to ourselves, this forum would have very few posts!  It's the nature of the beast.  I would suggest thicker skin ;)