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Offline okieboy

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Don't See Many of These
« on: February 26, 2024, 10:25:53 PM »
 Scrolling a site that sells a lot of stuff when I came across a flint lock with notch for a drum! It is a Golcher by the way.




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Re: Don't See Many of These
« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2024, 11:35:21 PM »
For that one, I would say it's an original percussion lock, with a flint cock added to it.
There are flintlocks that were converted to percussion that way, with a cap striker clamped in the flint lock jaws.
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Re: Don't See Many of These
« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2024, 12:30:46 AM »
For that one, I would say it's an original percussion lock, with a flint cock added to it.
There are flintlocks that were converted to percussion that way, with a cap striker clamped in the flint lock jaws.
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Re: Don't See Many of These
« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2024, 12:47:05 AM »
Not that it matters but that crude looking hammer is 1/4 turn off - if it fits at all.

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Re: Don't See Many of These
« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2024, 01:13:32 AM »
Here's a T. Ketland conversion I have. I just need a gun for it!
John


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Re: Don't See Many of These
« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2024, 03:13:43 AM »
Love that Ketland conversion. I've always thought that if I ever built a percussion gun it would be with a lock like that!
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Re: Don't See Many of These
« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2024, 04:09:17 AM »
Love that Ketland conversion. I've always thought that if I ever built a percussion gun it would be with a lock like that!

I agree. I think it would make a good looking gun!
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Offline Tanselman

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Re: Don't See Many of These
« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2024, 06:13:40 AM »
John,

It's nice to see the Ketland lock with its original chisel-cut "V" slots in the cock screw and top jaw screw, along with the expected tapered end on the top jaw screw. Just in case you weren't aware, most early Bluegrass guns from central Kentucky... where I collect from... used small "T. Ketland" locks just like this one, usually about 4-1/4" long. So John, why don't you measure the length of this neat little lock and post it, and when you get tired of not finding a gun to put it on [probably since most that would use it are in my gun safe], why don't you pass it along to me? Just a thought.

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Re: Don't See Many of These
« Reply #8 on: February 27, 2024, 07:25:54 AM »
Well Shelby, that would be a good thought, but my lock measures about 5 1/4" long.....
Are you sure you didn't mean 5 1/4 instead of 4 1/4?
Regretfully, John
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Re: Don't See Many of These
« Reply #9 on: February 27, 2024, 07:37:11 AM »
John,

Well, that's a monster compared to what they used on better Bluegrass rifles in Kentucky... about 4-1/2" at the longest. Thanks for measuring it. But you still have a really neat lock that needs to be on something.

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Offline JV Puleo

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Re: Don't See Many of These
« Reply #10 on: March 01, 2024, 03:43:44 AM »
I've had half a dozen flint locks converted that way. It wasn't common but it's not rare either, especially in New England.

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Re: Don't See Many of These
« Reply #11 on: March 02, 2024, 03:03:36 AM »
 In California Thats as close to a flintlock as we usually get, I’ve seen dozens converted like that, and many not that well executed.

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