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Offline 1sogdusm

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North Carolina? ID Help
« on: February 19, 2025, 11:04:00 PM »
I posted this in another thread but thought I would see what others might think.  42” barrel, about .36 caliber, some partial signature but can’t make it out.  Any help with ID greatly appreciated.



























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Offline Tanselman

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Re: North Carolina? ID Help
« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2025, 10:56:51 PM »
The reason for not getting much of a response on this rifle is because these percussion era Appalachian rifles are all rather generic in appearance and generally do not have enough details to attribute them to a specific area... unless they have a couple unique details that allow an attribution.

The "back woods" Appalachian area where western North Carolina, northeastern Tennessee, and southeaster Kentucky converge is where most of these Appalachian rifles originated... but from which state? It's somewhat of a guessing game, even for those knowledgeable in Appalachian rifles... to the extent possible to be knowledgeable. Your rifle could be said to be from North Carolina based on its strongly hooked rear trigger and general stock architecture, but it could just as easily be attributed to southeastern Kentucky based on its lozenge-shaped tang with two screws and its front trigger with a tab behind it. Tennessee is the only state I'd be hesitant to attribute this rifle to, but then, it's hard to really know with these "universal" type Appalachian rifles.

At times, it's better to accept a wider attribution, i.e., an Appalachian Mountain rifle, rather than seek a more specific attribution that is more someone's personal opinion than actual fact.

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Re: North Carolina? ID Help
« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2025, 11:15:25 PM »
The odd-looking divot in the butt's comb near the heel is probably a "working life" ding that some of these guns took. I have two rifles with rather similar dimples in the same place, with some evidence left to explain why it occurred. Both guns show traces of burn marks in the surrounding wood. The old story is that this type of comb damage came from using the gun's butt to lift hot cooking pots off a campfire, with the pot's hot bail charring the stock wood in the process. When done multiple times, the scarred area gets deeper. On a few rifles, traces of burn scars remain, while on others, scars have been cleaned off leaving a clean, small divot or dimple in the butt's comb... especially when the gun has been refinished in modern times.   

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Re: North Carolina? ID Help
« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2025, 05:39:13 AM »
Interesting that it's stocked in Curly Maple.