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Offline Enfield

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Kibler Fowler finished
« on: February 24, 2025, 06:49:17 PM »
So, its done.... Tryed a working Gun/ used look...






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Re: Kibler Fowler finished
« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2025, 07:05:16 PM »
lookin good.

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Re: Kibler Fowler finished
« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2025, 09:34:19 PM »
Should be a good  "working gun". The one thing I would do is use a              Dremmeil tool and (  slightly ) deepen the pan. Others might disagree with that.   ;)

 

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Re: Kibler Fowler finished
« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2025, 09:37:57 PM »
Very well done! I concur with deepening the pan just a bit.
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Re: Kibler Fowler finished
« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2025, 09:47:31 PM »
That shallow English style pan looks different to what we see on some locks, esp. Germanic style ones. But that don't mean it's broke.
I wouldn't change anything before shooting it for a while. Try it out with different amounts of priming powder, etc. If you get good ignition,  don't change anything. Mr. K designed it to work well, and I expect it does.

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Re: Kibler Fowler finished
« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2025, 09:50:04 PM »
I agree with whetrock. Taylor has a similar lock on his Virginia rifle that I don't think he deepened (much if he actually did that) and it works fine.
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Re: Kibler Fowler finished
« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2025, 10:45:26 PM »
Should be a good  "working gun". The one thing I would do is use a              Dremmeil tool and (  slightly ) deepen the pan. Others might disagree with that.   ;)

A waste of time...  This is our standard round faced lock that works fantastically.  Do you think I would sell it if it didn't?  Further this is how this type of English lock should be.

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Re: Kibler Fowler finished
« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2025, 11:03:37 PM »
Should be a good  "working gun". The one thing I would do is use a              Dremmeil tool and (  slightly ) deepen the pan. Others might disagree with that.   ;)

You cannot be serious. You’re not going to improve the lock or its performance in any way. Unbelievable.
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Re: Kibler Fowler finished
« Reply #8 on: February 25, 2025, 12:09:11 AM »
I was not running down the lock, just saying that I like a lot more prime than SOME shooters use when in a hunting situation. I use little prime when on a shooting line or in a trail walk situation. I'm betting that lock is an excellent lock from all the reviews and endorsements , Bob Roller for one.

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Re: Kibler Fowler finished
« Reply #9 on: February 25, 2025, 12:12:30 AM »
I was not running down the lock, just saying that I like a lot more prime than SOME shooters use when in a hunting situation. I use little prime when on a shooting line or in a trail walk situation. I'm betting that lock is an excellent lock from all the reviews and endorsements , Bob Roller for one.
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Re: Kibler Fowler finished
« Reply #10 on: February 25, 2025, 05:43:32 PM »
Kibler wouldn't sell a lock that needed any work. Everyone wants to tinker when they should leave well enough alone. Perhaps some locks do need work but not Kibler. I have 3 and they are fantastic.

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Re: Kibler Fowler finished
« Reply #11 on: February 25, 2025, 08:16:36 PM »
Enfield,

   I really like the metal finish you have there. Care to share your process? Please don't modify your pan, these locks work great as they come from Jim. The only thing you may need to modify is the touch hole diameter. But only if you have ignition problems. And Dremel tools should be kept far away from the gun bench.
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Re: Kibler Fowler finished
« Reply #12 on: February 25, 2025, 09:09:10 PM »
That stock sure has a nice look and finish to it.  Great job!

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Re: Kibler Fowler finished
« Reply #13 on: February 25, 2025, 09:36:57 PM »
Spot-on, Jim. I really like it too.
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Re: Kibler Fowler finished
« Reply #14 on: February 26, 2025, 02:38:42 AM »
I like the rear sight groove.  Does it work well for you?

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Re: Kibler Fowler finished
« Reply #15 on: February 26, 2025, 03:58:24 AM »
For me, that slot would not be visible. Some guys use an elevated, highly domed tang screw with the slot running down the barrel. I have seen those at rendezvous on smoothbores used for shooting a single ball.
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Re: Kibler Fowler finished
« Reply #16 on: February 26, 2025, 02:06:01 PM »
I like the rear sight groove.  Does it work well for you?

The slot is useless.... Not visible...but I added it to give the Fowler an own touch...
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Re: Kibler Fowler finished
« Reply #17 on: February 26, 2025, 02:09:06 PM »
I can say that all three locks I have in my Kiblers (Colonial, Woodsrunner and Fowler) are very, very fast and others on the range are always impressed.
Here you see, the powder in the pan is still igniting and the bullet is already out...


« Last Edit: February 26, 2025, 02:31:52 PM by Enfield »
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Re: Kibler Fowler finished
« Reply #18 on: February 26, 2025, 07:37:06 PM »
Nice work. Please share your wood finishing technique?

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Re: Kibler Fowler finished
« Reply #19 on: February 26, 2025, 07:46:04 PM »
Just true oil, wet sanding, no stain at all.... Lots of work, walnut is pain in the a....
But if you start right from the beginning with 240 Sandpaper and trueoil you can produce engough "sticky rub" to fill the grain. I was to careful and did the frist sanding without oil...
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Re: Kibler Fowler finished
« Reply #20 on: February 27, 2025, 04:20:00 AM »
Enfield,

   How did you get that metal finish? I like what you did there!
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Re: Kibler Fowler finished
« Reply #21 on: February 27, 2025, 10:27:28 PM »
I used Homer Dangler Barrel Brown, Six times and then I hang the barrel Outdoor in my garden for two days.... The lock parts also six times and then I put them into a sealed Box with a wet cloth.

When it was very rusty (after just four days) I washed it with a water/ baking soda mix to stop rusting.
Then I just brushed it with da steel brush...quite simple
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Re: Kibler Fowler finished
« Reply #22 on: February 27, 2025, 10:53:36 PM »
Thanks for the information Enfield!!
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Re: Kibler Fowler finished
« Reply #23 on: February 27, 2025, 10:54:34 PM »
What would a “non-working gun” look like?
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Re: Kibler Fowler finished
« Reply #24 on: February 27, 2025, 11:34:07 PM »
Kibler does build a fine looking gun.   Al
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