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Offline loiblb

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Dose anyone know what the original trade tomahawks looked like? I'm thinking the trade good stuff back in the early days. And where were they made?

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Re: Dose anyone know what the original trade tomahawks looked like?
« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2025, 05:00:26 AM »
The word tomahawk may mean different things to different people. Let’s talk trade axes of varying sizes. The small ones which were probably traded to the eastern part of North America are the so-called Biscayne style supplied by the French. Here is my original. https://americanlongrifles.org/forum/index.php?topic=59975.0
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Re: Dose anyone know what the original trade tomahawks looked like?
« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2025, 07:24:55 PM »
several decades ago, the Knuck collection was available online.  It showed close to a hundred hawks and axes.  I saved it to a floppy disk and am sure I transferred it to other media at some time.  Don'tt know if it's still available anywhere today.
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Re: Dose anyone know what the original trade tomahawks looked like?
« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2025, 11:25:56 AM »
Hello, maybe this website is helpful :  https://www.furtradetomahawks.com

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Re: Dose anyone know what the original trade tomahawks looked like?
« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2025, 09:49:20 PM »
James Levy may be able to help with this question. James retired from many years with FL History museum. He was involved in preservation  of found in the state of FL. They found some interesting items recovered from rivers I think some of these were Accourtments descended for  military and civilian use.

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Re: Dose anyone know what the original trade tomahawks looked like?
« Reply #6 on: April 28, 2025, 10:52:36 PM »
The head on this one is made of a casting taken from an original head, rust pits and all. I cleaned it up quite a bit. It is of a poleax style but could be drilled out for a pipe.




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Re: Dose anyone know what the original trade tomahawks looked like?
« Reply #7 on: April 29, 2025, 05:21:35 PM »
If you mean specifically pipe axes, they are rather time specific, not to mention differences between English, French and possibly Spanish trade types. Baldwin’s book is a good place to start, and those links already posted. Both resources cover many eras and styles.
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Re: Dose anyone know what the original trade tomahawks looked like?
« Reply #8 on: May 02, 2025, 09:10:56 PM »
The Spanish shipwrecks off Florida's coast have produce a number of full sized Viscayan style axes and some smaller spiked boarding hand axes.  The Spanish Missions around Tallahassee have produced the same style axes.  There were some very interesting finds from the Suwannee River.  A river diver brought up a spontoon type smoking tomahawk that is made of hard pewter and no sharp edges.  The diver also found a bundle of iron artifacts that were very interesting.  When the bundle was cleaned, it revealed 5 lugged Spanish style hoes that were shuffled head to toe, a piece of woven matting and on the other side were 5 iron tomahawks, only one of which had a steeled edge and a larger eye.  A trade type halberd was found near Apalachicola, FL.  A tomahawk was found in the Chipola River that still had a good portion of the wooden handle affixed.  Basically, almost all of the axes both large and small are of the Viscayan type.   James "Sparkleberry Jim" Levy
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