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Offline Pukka Bundook

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Re: flintlock picks?
« Reply #25 on: July 06, 2025, 04:27:24 PM »
Never have used a pick, but a bit of copper wire would work.
even a feather.
Never liked small touch holes though, so always drill them 5/64"  rather than 1/16".
I think a bigger touch-hole blows the $#@* out on firing and never think of a pick.

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Re: flintlock picks?
« Reply #26 on: July 07, 2025, 12:47:07 AM »
Never have used a pick, but a bit of copper wire would work.
even a feather.
Never liked small touch holes though, so always drill them 5/64"  rather than 1/16".
I think a bigger touch-hole blows the $#@* out on firing and never think of a pick.

Same here. 5/64th's is my standard, and all works well  :)

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Re: flintlock picks?
« Reply #27 on: July 07, 2025, 04:11:03 AM »
How do you clear a "Klinker"?
With a "Pick" of course.

When I started shooting BP the word "Klinker" was common on the firing line. Of course most shooters were long in the tooth and the skin behind my ears was still wet. But now my teeth have also grown long and some terms and fixes seem to have dropped from our language.
So how many here has ever heard of a "Klinker"?
And if so, how to fix it?
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Offline Daryl

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« Reply #28 on: July 07, 2025, 05:50:49 AM »
The only clinkers I've heard of, came from coal stoves.
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Offline Darkhorse

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« Reply #29 on: July 07, 2025, 11:55:11 AM »
Exactly why posts such as this can be useful.
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Re: flintlock picks?
« Reply #30 on: July 07, 2025, 02:29:40 PM »
Yep, coal stoves an coal forges.

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« Reply #31 on: July 07, 2025, 10:44:31 PM »
And steam locomotives and steam tractors.

My brother was a volunteer engineer on a tourist railroad in New Hope PA where they ran steam locos. I fired for him a few times.

A few years later I took a course in running steam tractors at Rough and Tumble in Kinzer PA. It was a blast.

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« Reply #32 on: July 08, 2025, 03:22:10 AM »
I am talking about shooting flintlocks not train engines. It doesn't seem many know what a "Klinker" is. Or how to fix one.
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« Reply #33 on: July 08, 2025, 03:29:47 AM »
Someone mentioned something about this thread if I recall correctly. I’m actually kinda enjoying reading all of replies from our “experts”. I keep waiting for the guy who uses a laser to pick.
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« Reply #34 on: July 08, 2025, 03:33:16 AM »
I am talking about shooting flintlocks not train engines. It doesn't seem many know what a "Klinker" is. Or how to fix one.
Please tell us more.

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« Reply #35 on: July 08, 2025, 05:21:11 AM »
Someone mentioned something about this thread if I recall correctly. I’m actually kinda enjoying reading all of replies from our “experts”. I keep waiting for the guy who uses a laser to pick.

You mean like this?


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Offline Pukka Bundook

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Re: flintlock picks?
« Reply #36 on: July 08, 2025, 04:02:04 PM »
Darkhorse,

I think clinkers in black powder showed up possibly in the lousy powder we got in the '70's with its poor sulphur.
Bill Curtis called the powder, "Nutty slack".
Not seen any light coloured lumps left behind for a Long time now.

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« Reply #37 on: July 08, 2025, 04:12:38 PM »
I am talking about shooting flintlocks not train engines. It doesn't seem many know what a "Klinker" is. Or how to fix one.
Please tell us more.
Since bluenoser asked.
As we shoot the fouling builds up down in the breech of our barrels until it's quite thick. Weather conditions can make this worse on certain occasions. The more we shoot the worse it gets until the coating below the touchhole breaks loose and becomes like a slab that now can move. When this "slab" of fouling moves up and covers the TH from the inside it becomes known as a "Klinker".

That is entirely possible Pukka, that is the time frame when they were most prevalent. But rarely they can still occur.
When this has occured to me I've taken a pick and tried to move it so I can get fire to the charge. If your TH is big enough you can see it as a gray slab blocking the TH. If I can't move it I take a pick with a point on the end and dig into it until I get enough of a hole to shoot the gun. Often the gun is loaded before you become aware of it.
The "Klinker" is a main reason for the practice of loading a gun with a pick in the TH.
I've  only experienced this at home during long shooting sessions without cleaning the rifle. So to prevent them I clean the rifle regularly. Often I plug the TH with a toothpick, then pour a little water down the barrel and let it sit while I do something else. Then I turn the rifle TH up, remove the toothpick and place a wadded up paper towel in the pan and close the frizzen. Next I insert the ramrod slowly a little more than halfway down. Turn the rifle bore up and with a sharp press of the RR blow the fouling out the TH and into the paper towel. I do this a couple of times until no more fouling comes out. Then run a wet patch down the barrel to clean the grooves then back to shooting.
As long as I clean the chamber area regularly I get no "Klinkers".  I  had rather try to prevent one than fix one after the fact.
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Offline Dave R

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Re: flintlock picks?
« Reply #38 on: July 15, 2025, 05:47:59 AM »
I like to make touch hole picks out of 1/16" brass welding rods, Taper one end to fit smaller touch holes and bend a eyelet on the opposite end so it's easier to grab and tucks quite nicely in a hunting pouch pocket. Make a few extra and hand them out to friends that need them! ;)

Offline Martin S.

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« Reply #39 on: July 15, 2025, 07:41:13 AM »
I like to make touch hole picks out of 1/16" brass welding rods, Taper one end to fit smaller touch holes and bend a eyelet on the opposite end so it's easier to grab and tucks quite nicely in a hunting pouch pocket. Make a few extra and hand them out to friends that need them! ;)

OK, this sounds like a fine idea.  I have one pick, but need to make one for my son and son-in-law, and maybe a spare for me in case I lose one.

Is it fairly easy to make the bend?  Do you just take a pair of needle nose pliers?  Do you need to heat it first?

Thanks.

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Re: flintlock picks?
« Reply #40 on: July 19, 2025, 10:54:11 AM »
I pick after I load the powder and ball and seat them fully. I use a fine tapered brass wire/rod to insure the flash hole is clear, and to make a channel into the compressed powder for the flash to enter.  The resulting felt “crunch” of pick into powder tells me much about consistent powder compression. 

My pick is tapered such that it rarely touches the flash hole edge.  The brass is softer than steel, minimizing damage.

I really don’t use a brush. If possible I have a rag or patch wet with alcohol or windshield washer fluid (alcohol dries faster) I use to wipe the frizzen, pan and flint between shots.  Consistency is key.  I hate misfires.

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« Reply #41 on: July 19, 2025, 02:12:45 PM »
I do much the same, pick after I load the powder and ball, wipe the frozen and pan with a rag. Probably just as much a habit as anything else.

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« Reply #42 on: July 19, 2025, 11:32:15 PM »
The most shots I've fired before cleaning is in the 80 to 120 shot range. Guess I'm just lucky not to get any klinkers.
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Re: flintlock picks?
« Reply #43 on: July 27, 2025, 01:53:01 AM »
All of my shooting bags are fitted with a vent pick.  I make mine out of a short length of tie wire which is very soft steel or iron wire about 1/16" in diameter.  I forge or grind a tapered point on the business end and make a loop for the thong tie and stick it into an appropriate place on the strap of my bag.   The wire is easy to bend, so inserting it into the vent must be done gently, but the fouling is easily pierced and cleared away from the vent, and ignition restored.
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Re: flintlock picks?
« Reply #44 on: August 02, 2025, 05:32:15 PM »
Like someone else posted they sell 4 packs of piano wire at the hardware store. One of the sizes is just right for a vent pick. they are long enough to make a few out of 1 piece. Into a mule deer antler tip and there you are a vent pick that doesn't use soft wire, won't hog out the vent hole and is cheap to make. I have one on every bag strap.

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Re: flintlock picks?
« Reply #45 on: August 02, 2025, 11:32:45 PM »
I use a partially opened gem clip & have a lil pipe cleaner attached to it.
Put gem clip end in the vent hole into the bore, wrap the pipe cleaner around the frizzen.
Load the rifle, unwrap the pipe cleaner & wiggle the gem clip & pull it out & vent hole is
for sure open.
Before this & for many years I just used the gym clip & opened the hole.

It Was & Is a worthwhile question. A few lil tips can save oneself allot of misfires on a flintlock.  And not everyone has anyone to shoot with that knows flintlocks. If everyone knew everything about  ML'ers, this forum would be useless.   

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