Percussion lock ID

[HighUintas]

Does anyone know who made this lock? It appears to be a copy of the J&S Hawken lock the guys down in Texas had the mold for which Bob roller had made a few of, but this one has "Ital" stamped on the back side of the plate.

[B.Barker]

That looks like a lock I used to see in adds back in the late 70s and early 80s. I can't tell you who was selling them though.

[Ray Nelson]

This Hawken lock design started with William Morgan from Texas. Later the almost identical plate and castings was produced by someone in Michigan that William C. Young made (Wahkon Bay) into very professionally complete locks or provided the kit if you liked to do yourself. These plates sloped forward in front like the original full stock shown in John Baird's Hawken Rifle book.

A similar import came from Italy that Dixie Gun Works sold as did another company called Indian Nations. There may have been others selling as well. These plates differed slightly as had an extra 1/16th added to the front top plate for parallel mid flat barrel positioning. Price a little cheaper of course.

Yours is one imported.

Ray

[Levy]

I also have one purchased on sale from Dixie Gun Works back in the 70's or 80's.  Made in Italy. 
James Levy

[Bob Roller]

Good looking plate and hammer that needed a better mechanism and I made a bunch of them and still have a plate and hammer.
It was as you said,offered by W.Morgan and those initials were in a lot of the plates I used.The picture shown here is close to the
level of quality in many locks seen on American muzzle loaders no matter where they were made.Makes me appreciate the fine English and Scotch locks and being able to copy them.
Bob Roller

[HighUintas]

Thanks for the information, everyone. The lock in this picture is one listed for sale on eBay. I considered purchasing it, but it could potentially take much work and skills I don't have to make it a quality lock