Bag for a trade gun?

[Jakob]

One of my good blackpowder friends here, keeps doing me favours and is impossible to pay back in a meaningful manner.
He primarily shoots a french tradegun, so now that I've had some success in making my own bag, I figured I'd make him a new bag as a way of partly paying back.

Problem is , that I have zero idea of what style would be appropriate? I'm looking for typical bags used by fur traders in Canada, ideally out west, but I don't think he's that picky.

Any leads would be much appreciated.

Jakob

[thecapgunkid]

A good heart with admirable intent.  I've been writing a bunch of Every Man A Cobbler posts because I am too lazy to get published again, and there are a lot of techniques in there aimed at guys who don't make bags for a living.

The key word here is..."sometimes"...

Sometimes bags have a big flap, and sometimes they don't. Sometimes bags are large and roomy and sometimes they are not.

Follow your instincts and judgement.  Leather bags are really hard to date because leather is a perishable, and the drawings of the period were subject to artists whimsy.

I'd try for a kit.  I've been using stuff from Crazy Crow and you can fashion a nice looking rig from their stuff, but is not your only alternative.

Just be sure to avoid using modern materials such as plastic beads or shiny buckles.

Think about what your friend uses and values, and bend your creation towards that.

Go get 'em.

[Jakob]

Yeah, that was a little bit what I was afraid of.
I do have the "Recreating the 18th century Hunting Pouch", so I may just take something from there.
No plans to use a kit. That would kinda defeat my intention.

[backsplash75]

For a French trade gun a slit pouch would be perfect!!!!






How to article:

https://traditionalblackpowderhunting.com/how-to/split-pouch-intro/split-pouch-construction/

Original at Deerfield:

https://1704.deerfield.history.museum/popups/artifacts.do?shortName=shotpouch&anchorName=

[Tumbledown]

That split pouch is interesting. I see it works like a market wallet.

[Jakob]

For a French trade gun a slit pouch would be perfect!!!!

That is actually an even better idea and will fit perfectly with his existing outfit!. Thank you!

[backsplash75]

post up some pics of the finished product!!!

[rich pierce]

Kinda surprised nobody referenced the painting “The Death of General Wolfe.” There’s a high res image here. https://art-and-see.com/products/benjamin-west-paintings-the-death-of-general-wolfe
Of course this painting wasn’t based on a photo from the actual scene and we never know how much is likely representative and how much is “props the artist could obtain for study.”

[Wmasswolf]

Here's a other drawing from french Louisiana- shows a great native set -

[Snowmoon]

For a French trade gun a slit pouch would be perfect!!!!






How to article:

https://traditionalblackpowderhunting.com/how-to/split-pouch-intro/split-pouch-construction/

Original at Deerfield:

https://1704.deerfield.history.museum/popups/artifacts.do?shortName=shotpouch&anchorName=

That sketch of the three coreurs de bois is fantastic. Would you happen to have some info on its source and context?

[backsplash75]

Here's a other drawing from french Louisiana- shows a great native set -

yep, great choice for a Cherokee ca 1760

[backsplash75]

That sketch of the three coreurs de bois is fantastic. Would you happen to have some info on its source and context?

Habillemens des Coureurs de Bois Canadiens, no 2, Anon. ca. 1730, Beineck Rare Book and Manuscript Library, Yale University. MSS S-2412

for context, read this https://www.amazon.com/Frontier-Soldiers-New-France-Revolution/dp/1804516791/ref=sr_1_3_mod_primary_new?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.e50ZOow13wgoUMFxT2OmOYkidf-xINxfPzLuvU8zBe8.HjEOnwfwn6sWP3Y_PadHG5010E4ymW9gFJhYfPhkZVI&dib_tag=se&qid=1756826131&refinements=p_27%3AKevin+G%C3%A9linas&s=books&sbo=RZvfv%2F%2FHxDF%2BO5021pAnSA%3D%3D&sr=1-3&text=Kevin+G%C3%A9linas\



ETA the "How To" article refers to this pouch but the link is broken, here is the current link: https://americanindian.si.edu/exhibitions/infinityofnations/woodlands/242000.html