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Offline New Fowler

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Re: New Mexico Cow Elk hunt
« Reply #25 on: October 12, 2025, 04:18:10 AM »
Near quemado lake, Northern border between Arizona and New Mexico. Plan is to bring shooting sticks and a rifle with a sling. I am pretty confident on the sling alone, but the sticks do help a bit. My hawken does not have a sling, the sticks help. My goal is offhand a shot less than 80 yards, and off sticks inside 120.

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Re: New Mexico Cow Elk hunt
« Reply #26 on: October 12, 2025, 09:14:32 AM »
I should add that I only missed that big one because he was the biggest one I've ever seen and I was shaking so badly (nearly seizure level it seemed) that I don't think I intentionally pulled the trigger. I'm not even sure if I had the post on him yet. I know I set the set trigger, which was probably the first mistake. I was however for some reason cool as a cucumber on the second chance I got with a different bull. I learned quickly from that first miss.

If it's possible you'll get the shakes when you're about to shoot, maybe just use the trigger unset.

Offline alacran

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Re: New Mexico Cow Elk hunt
« Reply #27 on: October 12, 2025, 02:19:13 PM »
Man, if I didn't get excited and my heart didn't race before I decided to take a shot, I would probably be dead.
It is hunting and not shopping, you have to assume everything that can go wrong will. The last elk I killed with my flintlock last December after spending more than half an hour sneaking in on the bedded cow. I finally spotted her 70 yards away; I dropped to a kneeling position behind the juniper. I inched my way to where I had a lane. I put my rifle up, but I had to take it down and reassess the elk as a target and where the best place to aim would be. By the time I figured out the shot I was calm and was able to squeeze of the shot.
New fowler, I don't use a self-contained cartridge. I use loose powder and the ball block.  The ball block pictured is the one I use for trail walks. I have a smaller one that holds five balls for hunting.
All the elk I have killed with muzzleloaders have been in the junipers. The moment you fire a shot the elk are going to take off. If you are in the junipers, you will be hard pressed to see them, but you will be able to hear them. I can reload pretty fast with my set up and I am a good tracker.
A man's rights rest in three boxes: the ballot box, the jury box, and the cartridge box.  Frederick Douglass

Offline Jeff Murray

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Re: New Mexico Cow Elk hunt
« Reply #28 on: October 12, 2025, 11:50:35 PM »
For smaller game I prefer a bag and horn setup.  It is just more rewarding.  For larger game I use pre-measured charges in plastic tubes, a loading block with pre-lubed patch/ball combo and a spring-loaded brass pan charger.  The balls in the loading block are pushed far enough into the block so they stick out the back for quick alignment.  This setup has worked well for multiple elk hunts and I was fortunate enough not to need a second shot.  You might also practice your reloading while practicing shooting so you get the routine down without having to figure where and what comes next.

Offline Daryl

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Re: New Mexico Cow Elk hunt
« Reply #29 on: October 13, 2025, 11:20:41 PM »
Small game/big game, using loading blocks:


The big one is what I used before discovering how well paper ctgs. worked. Must say, this
was for the Special Weapons hunt, with run in weather from 33F down to -56F. Patched balls
were difficult in temps under -20F. THAT is where paper ctgs. SHINE!
Daryl

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Offline New Fowler

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Re: New Mexico Cow Elk hunt
« Reply #30 on: October 16, 2025, 04:51:45 PM »
An unfortunate update on this hunt, it is no more. The landowner called us yesterday evening and told us that after a major rainstorm, the elk have left his property, and he will probably close the ranch to hunting this season. We will be going deer hunting this fall during firearms season here in Kansas, will be bringing our flintlocks along with us to hopefully get something down with a muzzleloader. Thank you for all of you who responded, we will probably go to western Kansas to get a taste of Western hunting. Thinking also of going deer hunting in Nebraska during the muzzleloader season for deer. Nothing concrete yet.

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Re: New Mexico Cow Elk hunt
« Reply #31 on: October 16, 2025, 06:22:44 PM »
Practice your shooting when holding the rifle against the side of a tree, and keep your shots within the range you can accurately hit a 10-inch bullseye, doing so. Or get a monopod, bipod, or tripod. Monopods leaning against the side of a tree work well.
When I lived in New Mexico I shot 1 elk by resting rifle along side of a large tree as suggested, and the others where shot prone in the high country of Sierra Blanca. Same technique worked in Montana.

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Re: New Mexico Cow Elk hunt
« Reply #32 on: October 16, 2025, 08:15:56 PM »
An unfortunate update on this hunt, it is no more. The landowner called us yesterday evening and told us that after a major rainstorm, the elk have left his property, and he will probably close the ranch to hunting this season. We will be going deer hunting this fall during firearms season here in Kansas, will be bringing our flintlocks along with us to hopefully get something down with a muzzleloader. Thank you for all of you who responded, we will probably go to western Kansas to get a taste of Western hunting. Thinking also of going deer hunting in Nebraska during the muzzleloader season for deer. Nothing concrete yet.

Really sorry to hear that. That is unfortunate. At least you still have options for hunting with the flintlock this season.

Hopefully you're able to get that elk hunt, or another, back on the schedule next year

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Re: New Mexico Cow Elk hunt
« Reply #33 on: October 16, 2025, 08:37:26 PM »
Probably going to Colorado over the counter next year

Offline AZshot

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Re: New Mexico Cow Elk hunt
« Reply #34 on: October 17, 2025, 12:46:30 AM »
Did you get drawn in NM?  If so, why do you have to hunt on that guy's land?  You can hunt anywhere that is National Forest, BLM, or several other types of land in NM, in your unit.  I've never used an outfitter, so I don't know how that works, but assume you still have to be drawn? 

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Re: New Mexico Cow Elk hunt
« Reply #35 on: October 17, 2025, 12:47:26 AM »
Did you get drawn in NM?  If so, why do you have to hunt on that guy's land?  You can hunt anywhere that is National Forest, BLM, or several other types of land in NM, in your unit.
It was a landowner tag for private land

Offline alacran

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Re: New Mexico Cow Elk hunt
« Reply #36 on: October 17, 2025, 01:42:31 PM »
New Mexico does game management by cattle ranchers. It is easier for a nonresident to hunt in NM than a resident as long as he has the $$.
A man's rights rest in three boxes: the ballot box, the jury box, and the cartridge box.  Frederick Douglass

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Re: New Mexico Cow Elk hunt
« Reply #37 on: October 17, 2025, 07:36:07 PM »
 If I was going to hunt elk in territory as you describe I would opt for a short barreled tradegun that weighed six, or seven pounds. A friend shot a bull elk in Idaho at eighty yards and flipped him right over on his back, he never got back on his feet. Him and I built that tradegun out of used parts, an antique shotgun barrel, and a chunk of walnut stump.

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