Trigger pull length again

[DanL]

I read with interest the discussions on trigger pull length (LOP). A few years ago, I had shoulder replacement surgery. This affected my LOP (Now shorter).

I had an excellent fowler (20 ga) which was ~14" LOP that was very usable for me but not perfect. After surgery, LOP was far too long. I sold the fowler.

While perusing the for sales items on a few forums, I have been looking for a decent 20 ga. fowler with maybe 13-13.5" LOP. It seems that most of the ones that I see for sale are 14"+ LOP.

My Question:   If.....most persons that participated in the previous LOP discussions prefer shorter than 14", why are most built to 14"+ ?


Please do not discuss a Kibler. I am aware of his offerings. While I have not ruled him out, I am perusing ALL that are available OR NOT.

Also, I am not interested in building one at this time.

Thanks, DanL

[P.W.Berkuta]

I don't understand your question. Are you looking for a smoothbore with a 13" to 13-1/2" LOP to buy or just want an answer to " If.....most persons that participated in the previous LOP discussions prefer shorter than 14", why are most built to 14"+ ?"

I have short arms and for a shotgun that will shoot to my point of aim I prefer one with a LOP of 13-1/4" - no more and no less. I am a ATA member and a "B" class shooter and win my share of class events. My 16-yard scores are in the 96 out of 100 and above category.

[Kurt]

I can empathize with your situation and the benefits of a bit shorter stock. It moves the center of gravity back to where the weight is more manageable. With that said, I will offer that I shortened several of my guns' butt stocks. As long as there is no engraving or carving to be destroyed, it is not that difficult. The butt plate will need to be reshaped at the bottom, but by carefully drawing the lines on the wood and using the proper saw and file, it is a relatively simple process.

[Bill in Md]

Because fowlers/shotguns are held differently than longrifles.

[DanL]

@P.W.Berkuta I am looking for an answer to my Question. WHY do builders make fowlers and/or other long guns 14+ LOP when shooters (referring to previous discussions) seem to prefer a shorter LOP. 

[DanL]

@Kurt, I did not wish to shorten the stock on the fowler that I formally had due to carving and engraving. I currently do not have one to alter.

Thanks, DanL

[DanL]

@Bill in Md, I understand that fowlers may be held differently. Also, each person handles various long arms differently. However, I believe that in the previous trigger pull length discussion, folks talked generally about the LOP in smooth bores as well as rifles, etc. 

In my situation, fowlers, smooth bores, rifles and any other long arms all require an LOP shorter than 14”.

If one is making a long arm to sell to just anyone ( not contracted to a specific person) why make the LOP longer than the average person might be interested in?

Just curious here folks.


DanL

[rich pierce]

I don’t build any gun longer than 13 and 3/4” unless requested and the client understands they are responsible for the fit. 13.5” on a spec gun. Big guys with a lot of chest “muscle” don’t need longer guns than that though they may think “I’m a big guy and I want it to be custom.”

Speculation, as people are a riddle to me: Custom trigger pull length and cast-off are features a custom build can offer and many customers want both. Not many guys brag, “yep, I got a custom gun with a 12 and 7/8” trigger pull.”  Bigger is considered better.

[Bill in Md]

@Bill in Md, I understand that fowlers may be held differently. Also, each person handles various long arms differently. However, I believe that in the previous trigger pull length discussion, folks talked generally about the LOP in smooth bores as well as rifles, etc. 

In my situation, fowlers, smooth bores, rifles and any other long arms all require an LOP shorter than 14”.

If one is making a long arm to sell to just anyone ( not contracted to a specific person) why make the LOP longer than the average person might be interested in?

Just curious here folks.


DanL

Again, a rifle (correctly held) does not require a trigger pull of more than 13.5 inches  for 90% of men.Especially if it is built with cast off....A shotgun on the other hand; that is used in wing shooting, is held (if correct) differently than a long rifle, and 14" is quite comfortable for most folks.....Now, if you are looking to shoot a fowler like a rifle with a patched ball, then a length of 14 inches will tend to be too long.

[Brokennock]

I feel your frustration. I too have noticed so many guns for sale woth a 14" LOP that it seems almost standardized, despite most people not need it that long. I can shoot and maneuver my 14" LOP rifle okay in late spring/summer/early fall attire, once I put on late fall through winter layers it is just too long. I can shoot it okay once I get it into position, but getting it there is tougher than it should be, and some positions just can be done. My Fusil or fowling piece gas to be shorter.
Moste people can addapt to a LOP slightly too short, not so much ine that is too long. Not sure why so many guns are made so long.