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Offline Nhgrants

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Jug Choking
« on: September 13, 2025, 09:24:41 PM »
Has anyone herejug choked a barrel using an expandable reamer? I just bought large obe for winch bushings  and i wonder if this has been done.

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Re: Jug Choking
« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2025, 10:42:43 PM »
I think that’s not the tool for the job. I can’t figure out how your position merry it, then expand it, then retract it. Nor can I cipher how to not end up with square edges in the area being worked.l.
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Re: Jug Choking
« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2025, 10:46:40 PM »


this may help

Offline Longknife

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Re: Jug Choking
« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2025, 04:24:39 PM »
That reamer is for bronze bushings. It will not cut steel CLEANLY. I made jug choking tool out of a piece of 3/8 key stock, a file and a piece of 3/8 ram rod.







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Re: Jug Choking
« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2025, 08:30:27 PM »
I have used a Lewis lead remover with sandpaper on it and spun up with an electric drill. 

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Re: Jug Choking
« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2025, 02:53:59 AM »
I jugged a .44 calibre smoothbore using a brake cylinder hone. After the stones wore out, I contact cemented 320grit emery onto the steel pads.
Worked perfectly - wonderful patters. Broke 10 straight shooting against 12 bore SxS's and a 10 bore as well. Won the match, shot
from the 16 yard position. I used 3/4oz. shot and 45gr. 3F, IIRC.
That gun also shot patched round balls quite well.
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Re: Jug Choking
« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2025, 01:16:12 AM »
Is geometry critical?

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Re: Jug Choking
« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2025, 04:04:37 PM »



Yes geometry matters. When I made mine a based it on the diagram in MB mag. I believe it was in the early 90's. I then made some changes that I thought would improve the design. When I picked up a file one day I thought, man that would make a good choking tool with a few mods and I used it to make the cutter and soldered it to the key stock. A lot of these dimensions depend on the gauge and the amount of shot you plan to use

A. This will vary slightly, depending on the depth of the jug but generally speaking you want the shot column to be fully contained in that 'CHOKE" to work properly. In other words, A should be the length of you shot column. If you look at my tool there is a brass pin that rides against the muzzle to position the choke in the bore.

B. This is a dimension that was really dictated be the taper of the file but generally speaking you want the taper "into" to jug at a slower taper than the taper coming out of the jug. It will also vary depending on depth of the "jug".

C. This OAL of the jug should also be the length (or longer) than the shot column.

D. OAL length is not really important, if you follow the two above statements it will come out OK.

E.I believe the choke I have pictured on ALR was for a 12 bore, and it probably could be used on bored from 14 bore to 11 bore.

F. This depends on how much choke you want , but generally speaking, 8 to 10 thou. is IMP. 16-18 thou is MOD and 24-26 is Full. I have never choked past .026 and get excellent results but I have heard of others choking up to .035 too.

One point to remember is that the shot column will expand to fit in the jug and the wads need to expand too so there is no loss of pressure.  Hard cards or thick wads may not expand sufficiently.  It may be necessary to go with paper, cloth of wasp nests if you go for a full choke.

Let me know if I can answer any more questions, Ed   
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Re: Jug Choking
« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2025, 07:44:31 PM »
This has been a most informative topic and posts. 
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Re: Jug Choking
« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2025, 09:01:07 PM »
How far into the barrel is the choke? As in, how much of the original bore is left after the choke?

Thanks for the info! I have a 16 guage x 38” barrel I’d like to jug choke.
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Re: Jug Choking
« Reply #10 on: September 20, 2025, 01:26:01 AM »
As in "A" above the "choke" at muzzle needs to be at least as long as your shot column to give it maximum compression! This is what I was told years ago and I designed my tool around those specs!....LK   
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Re: Jug Choking
« Reply #11 on: September 20, 2025, 02:03:56 AM »
Ed, is there a diagram that explains or shows what the lettered dimensions A through F refer to?
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Re: Jug Choking
« Reply #12 on: September 21, 2025, 03:35:02 PM »
Rich, yes!!!



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Re: Jug Choking
« Reply #13 on: September 21, 2025, 07:42:20 PM »
Perfect, Ed! I gotta make one now!
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