1728 St Etienne musket

[ntqlvr1948]

I recently got this gun out of an old collection. I know it is a 1728 St Etienne gun. Lock is marked Ducois? A St Etienne
It has a 40 inch barrel with its original wood ramrod and in remarkable condition. I found the French muskets and a St Etienne but only the infrantry gun. they have barrel bands. This gun has a pinned barrel and the only band holds the forward sling swivel. I cannot find this particular gun in my books. Can any of you ID the model?
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[backsplash75]

Assuming it has always been set up with pins and has an entry pipe, this appears to be an early "Grenadier" musket (meaning set up for a sling). The French Marines used these here until the 1740s when muskets copying the 1728 model were adopted as standard.

See Moller volume 1, Chartrand's French military Arms and Armor and Chartrand/Gelinas' Frontier Soldiers of New France v1.

https://www.amazon.com/French-Military-Armor-America-1503-1783/dp/1931464731

https://www.amazon.com/Frontier-Soldiers-New-France-Regulation/dp/1804515469/ref=pd_sbs_d_sccl_1_5/143-0278758-6692002?pd_rd_w=PtE1Q&content-id=amzn1.sym.2cd14f8d-eb5c-4042-b934-4a05eafd2874&pf_rd_p=2cd14f8d-eb5c-4042-b934-4a05eafd2874&pf_rd_r=FFW0RFB97NGWJGGNVB1P&pd_rd_wg=X67s8&pd_rd_r=316ffa97-107a-4e1f-82d5-af70e04dadad&pd_rd_i=1804515469&psc=1

[smart dog]

Hi,
Backsplash has it.  Grenadier musket.  I don't have a "Ducois" in my reference list but I do have "Dubois" at St Etienne during the 1740s.

dave

[ntqlvr1948]

Thanks...it has always been as it is. No modifications and wood ramrod...Now I know what to call it
Thanks for the help

[ntqlvr1948]

 Thanks for more research on the internet....It is a St Etienne 1716 contract grenadier musket

[Ian Pratt]

This jogged my memory as the Rifle Shoppe has a set of French lock castings with a similar stamping on the plate. Lejay - Duclos.   From "The French Trade Gun in North America 1662-1759"  -   " Information pertaining to the association of the arms merchants Lejay and Duclos at St. Etienne is limited. Buigne mentions that they were actively working in 1720, although by 1748, Lejay's widow had taken over her husband's business and was attempting to become an officially recognized entrepreneur of military weapons in this town. "

[ntqlvr1948]

Thanks...I took the gun outside in the light and it does say Lejay. Duclos.  and below.... A St Etienne the stamped letters are quite tiny for my 77 year old eyes And I measured the barrel ...it is 44 inches long.   It is a fantastic gun