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Offline Dphariss

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Re: carving area not cleaned up
« Reply #50 on: December 03, 2015, 04:25:17 PM »
Why do some gunmakers leave the stock carvings not cleaned up?  It would not take much extra time to get rid of the rough surface or even to clean the finish out of these areas.  IMO it makes an other wise work of art look like $#@*.

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Everyone works to the standard they think is proper. Some don't seem to have a standard or simply can't tell good work from bad. I get the idea from guns and comments I sometimes see here and on the blog that the latter is the case. OR the commenters simply will not tell the truth.

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Re: carving area not cleaned up
« Reply #51 on: December 03, 2015, 09:36:49 PM »
People often like clear cut standards, but in my mind it's not that simple.  A gun with perfectly clean carving can be fantastic as can one with tool marks all over it.  I believe it's the design and resulting concept that matters.  In one sense, you can think of tool marks as part of the design. 

Another  thing that should be noted, is that tool marks are not all equal.  A highly skilled carver can leave texture that is relatively uniform and reflects his skill with chisels and gouges.  Someone with less skill may leave torn grain or allow the corners of chisels to dig in etc.  These are very different levels of workmanship.

With this said, If someone wants to emulate a lower level of workmanship there's nothing at all wrong with that!  In fact some might think it's more appropriate. 

What matters for me most is the impact of the final design and creation.  Does it grab you.  Lots of ways to make something that does this.


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Re: carving area not cleaned up
« Reply #52 on: December 04, 2015, 12:06:06 AM »
tool marks are not all equal.

Are the marks accidental, or are they part of the process? Do the marks add to the overall effect, or take away from it?

Excellent thoughts, Jim.
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Re: carving area not cleaned up
« Reply #53 on: December 04, 2015, 06:29:30 AM »
tool marks are not all equal.

Are the marks accidental, or are they part of the process? Do the marks add to the overall effect, or take away from it?

Excellent thoughts, Jim.

Acer,

I'm my opinion the answer is yes to all your statements. They can be all of the above. Skilled or unskilled. Either way a mark that living breathing person used their skills to the best that they could , working man-made and natural materials into something someone else will cherish. Loose the marks, and you have a gun that comes to us via a lightning bolt from some firearm loving God. Looks great, but not created by a man, therefore missing that connection that I need to feel when picking up a flintlock. Perhaps this is why I just don't get into my modern firearms as much.

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Re: carving area not cleaned up
« Reply #54 on: December 04, 2015, 07:06:31 AM »
"Tool marks are not all equal." I could not agree more. I carved for many years before I ever built my first rifle. I took pride in clean professional tool marks that needed no sanding. Sharp tools are a must. I do scrape and sand on my rifles ,but I try to keep it at a minimum.
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