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Re: A Tale of Two Little Rifles - Start of the engraving
« Reply #100 on: December 27, 2021, 11:08:47 PM »
Started the engraving yesterday.  As usual, it takes me a while to get back into engraving when I have not done it for a while.  Is I start with the parts that are most easily re-worked or replaced if i mess them up completely......Started with the trigger, trigger plate, and side plate.



Was confident enough to go on to the rear ram rod pipe......


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Re: A Tale of Two Little Rifles - Start of the engraving
« Reply #101 on: December 27, 2021, 11:14:31 PM »
You havent lost your touch Dave. I really would like to know how those " lightning bolts " on the rear pipe are cut and what size graver you use for them.

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Re: A Tale of Two Little Rifles - Start of the engraving
« Reply #102 on: December 28, 2021, 12:09:48 AM »
You obviously havenít lost your talents; layout and execution beautiful

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Re: A Tale of Two Little Rifles - Start of the engraving
« Reply #103 on: December 28, 2021, 12:19:37 AM »
Thanks.....but not as good as it has been.  I'm a little rusty.
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Re: A Tale of Two Little Rifles - Start of the engraving
« Reply #104 on: December 28, 2021, 05:42:38 AM »
Toe plate and patch box button engraving.......


"No man will be a sailor who has contrivance enough to get himself into a jail; for being in a ship is being in a jail, with the chance of being drowned... a man in a jail has more room, better food, and commonly better company."
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Re: A Tale of Two Little Rifles - Start of the engraving
« Reply #105 on: December 28, 2021, 07:03:18 AM »
Looking good Dave.
Can I ask what tool and technique you use for your nick and dot border?
Your consistency is impressive.

Thanks
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Re: A Tale of Two Little Rifles - Start of the engraving
« Reply #106 on: December 28, 2021, 07:26:55 AM »
Simply breathtaking!

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Re: A Tale of Two Little Rifles - Start of the engraving
« Reply #107 on: December 28, 2021, 09:23:44 AM »
Beautiful work.

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Re: A Tale of Two Little Rifles - Start of the engraving
« Reply #108 on: December 28, 2021, 09:17:29 PM »
Thank you all for the kind comments.

Jeff,  On the nick and dot I roll a flat engraver.  I cut a straight boarder line with a standard 90-degree graver.  Then I switch over to a flat graver.  I do the spacing by "eye" putting one corner of the flat in the cut line, I drive the graver in along the line but with the edge tilted up at an angle to the work surface.  As the graver is driven forward, I roll the flat into the work and then back out again resulting in a little cut triangle.  So I am rolling the flat into and out of the original cut line and proceeding along the direction of the border rather than at 90 degrees to it.  I use the same flat graver to do the dots....and the same motion.....just very tiny and, obviously, with the point opposite the nicks.  So I do the whole border with just two graver shapes.....90 degree and a flat.  The intervals I do by eye.  Mine are not all that consistently spaced when I blow the engraving up on the screen.  But it looks OK at a distance.....I think... :o

And by the way, Smylee Grouch, the sun burst pattern is done the same way.  I lay out and cut the outline of the rays with a 90 degree square graver.  Then switch over to the flat graver and roll it in and out as I proceed along the ray.  The little triangles done on the opposite side are done exactly the same and just cut between the opposing nicks.  It took me a while, for both boarders and the sun burst , to learn how to cut the nicks and dots in either direction.  I try always to orient the work so I can cut from right to left, but on the close side I have to roll the flat graver away from me and on the far side I have to roll it toward me.  I am still not as consistent as I would like, but like all skills, it only comes with practice.

Hope this helps.
« Last Edit: December 28, 2021, 09:21:39 PM by davec2 »
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Re: A Tale of Two Little Rifles - Start of the engraving
« Reply #109 on: December 28, 2021, 09:54:51 PM »
Thanks for those tips Dave. I can see some practice plates being done before I get to the real deal. :)

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Re: A Tale of Two Little Rifles - Start of the engraving
« Reply #110 on: December 28, 2021, 10:17:58 PM »
"looks OK at a distance", you say -  looks bloody marvelous to me.
Well done.
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Re: A Tale of Two Little Rifles - Start of the engraving
« Reply #111 on: December 28, 2021, 10:53:17 PM »
Dave,
Thanks for the info.
I think your consistency and spacing hold up quite well, even under magnification.  Thatís what prompted me to ask the question.
I have used the same method, just not quite as well.   ;)

Thanks again,
Jeff
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Re: A Tale of Two Little Rifles - More engraving
« Reply #112 on: December 30, 2021, 06:41:35 AM »
Continuing with the engraving on all the brass parts.......

Patch box lay out.....



First cuts on the box finial.......



This is a sterling sliver piece that will be mounted in the center of the patch box door.......



And a little engraving on the butt plate return and toe.......




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Re: A Tale of Two Little Rifles - Patch box engraving completed
« Reply #113 on: December 31, 2021, 07:06:02 AM »
Finished the patch box engraving......lock, muzzle cap, and trigger guard to go......



"No man will be a sailor who has contrivance enough to get himself into a jail; for being in a ship is being in a jail, with the chance of being drowned... a man in a jail has more room, better food, and commonly better company."
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Re: A Tale of Two Little Rifles - Patch box engraving completed
« Reply #114 on: December 31, 2021, 02:21:34 PM »
WOW! Times several. 

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Re: A Tale of Two Little Rifles - Patch box engraving completed
« Reply #115 on: December 31, 2021, 02:22:15 PM »
 Stunning, Absolutely Beautiful. I would have trouble even drawing a single scroll like on the finial much less a mirrored image, won't even mention engraving it. 

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Re: A Tale of Two Little Rifles - Patch box engraving completed
« Reply #116 on: December 31, 2021, 05:07:33 PM »
I really like it. The style and execution are super. Maybe some English with some John Noll thrown in.

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Re: A Tale of Two Little Rifles - Patch box engraving completed
« Reply #117 on: December 31, 2021, 05:59:09 PM »
Dave, thatís just awesome buddy.

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Re: A Tale of Two Little Rifles - Patch box engraving completed
« Reply #118 on: December 31, 2021, 06:02:59 PM »
Beyond words. That is just amazing in every way 🌟

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Re: A Tale of Two Little Rifles - Patch box engraving completed
« Reply #119 on: January 01, 2022, 07:27:14 AM »
That box is specialÖ, great job!!!   Best,


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Thank you for the kind words.....just don't blow the engraving up too far on the computer.  It looks best at arms length... :o ......and Happy New Year to all !!!!

New Years Day I had nothing more exciting to do than work on this little rifle some more.  I managed to finish the engraving on the trigger guard and muzzle cap.  The center of the design on the muzzle cap is where the copper rivet will go to secure the cap to the stock....







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WOW! Thatís some beautiful work there

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Got the muzzle cap installed with a copper rivet.....



Carved and cast a miniature sterling silver thumb piece......



This is where it will go....



Machined a 4-40 threaded attachment and silver soldered it to the thumb piece (sorry these photos came out fuzzy.....I just got a new iPhone 13 mini and it takes lousy close up pictures !!  My old SE did MUCH better   >:( >:(



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