Author Topic: Flintlock pan primer  (Read 5168 times)

Egonz

  • Guest
Flintlock pan primer
« on: January 06, 2021, 11:53:36 PM »
Has anyone ever made a pan primer or a powder flask other than a cow horn?
Can you post or send me a picture

Offline Bob McBride

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2828
  • TENNESSEE
    • Black Powder TV
Re: Flintlock pan primer
« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2021, 12:37:37 AM »
Jerry Rice (Jerry) here on the forum makes these.




galudwig

  • Guest
Re: Flintlock pan primer
« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2021, 12:39:45 AM »
I had a couple of thick, wide, and flat brow tines from whitetail antlers that I hollowed out and plugged. Left one I'm finishing for my son's hunting bag, right one is the one I've been carrying in my hunting bag for 20 years.



Online Daryl

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 14972
Re: Flintlock pan primer
« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2021, 01:09:26 AM »
There are brass priming devices for sale at track, etc, but some have likened them to hand grenades.
I now use only my horn primers, and use the 'hand grenades' for priming storage for in the shooting box.
Daryl

"a gun without hammers is like a spaniel without ears" King George V

Offline acorn20

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 522
Re: Flintlock pan primer
« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2021, 05:47:56 AM »
Here are a few more:



This primer was made by William Fluke


Bottom of primer



Primer by blacksmith Brian Anderson







Another primer by Brian Anderson
Dan Akers

Offline skillman

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 996
  • The Usual Suspect
Re: Flintlock pan primer
« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2021, 05:33:54 PM »
I made one out of Cane. Bamboo actually. A wood plug with a horn plug/vent pick. Pictures are fairly self explanatory.







Steve
Steve Skillman

Offline hanshi

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5310
  • My passion is longrifles!
    • martialartsusa.com
Re: Flintlock pan primer
« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2021, 11:41:18 PM »
I did not make this one  It was a gift from a forum friend; he made it from a piece of deer leg bone.
!Jozai Senjo! "always present on the battlefield"
Young guys should hang out with old guys; old guys know stuff.

Offline Spotted Bull

  • Starting Member
  • *
  • Posts: 12
Re: Flintlock pan primer
« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2021, 12:31:00 AM »
Hanshi I've never seen a leg bone into a primer! That's pretty cool!

Offline davec2

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2802
    • The Lucky Bag
Re: Flintlock pan primer
« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2021, 08:11:56 AM »
A while back we had a discussion about primers  (http://americanlongrifles.org/forum/index.php?topic=24135.0) and I posted a couple that I had made several years ago out of a .30 and .50 cal brass cases.  Here they are again:





About the same time I was posting those, Dennis Glazener was sending me a PM about a friend who had recently blown off part of his hand with a primer much like the one I had made out of the .50 cal case when it accidently caught a spark.  I thanked Dennis for the heads up and told him I was working on a primer that had a "blow out" safety feature.  Well, here it is.  It uses a modified plunger tube on the business end, but the rear end of the reservoir tube is not closed with metal.  The end is plugged with a thin leather disk sealed and water proofed with a drop of varnish.  It only takes a few psi to blow out the leather disk, so, if this one were to catch a spark, you might get burned, but the tube will not explode and there won't be any shrapnel.  (You could do the same thing with a little cork in a plain tube.)

Perhaps a little overkill, but then I had some time, some brass, an idea....and I like to keep all my digits in place.





By the by, while I was digging around looking for the brass, I found a powder measure I made when I was 10 for my first powder horn.  Not at all safe, but not bad for 10.

"No man will be a sailor who has contrivance enough to get himself into a jail; for being in a ship is being in a jail, with the chance of being drowned... a man in a jail has more room, better food, and commonly better company."
Dr. Samuel Johnson, 1780

Offline Mike from OK

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1083
Re: Flintlock pan primer
« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2021, 09:28:27 AM »
Dave that primer with the leather relief plug is gorgeous. Phenomenal work.

And I know we aren't supposed to discuss modern stuff... But out of curiosity what .30 chambering is that primer... -06?

Mike

Offline davec2

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2802
    • The Lucky Bag
Re: Flintlock pan primer
« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2021, 08:02:41 PM »
Mike,

Yes it is a 30-06 case
"No man will be a sailor who has contrivance enough to get himself into a jail; for being in a ship is being in a jail, with the chance of being drowned... a man in a jail has more room, better food, and commonly better company."
Dr. Samuel Johnson, 1780

Offline Marcruger

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3646
Re: Flintlock pan primer
« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2021, 09:27:22 PM »
That spiral one is spectacular Dave.  I'd expect nothing less from you.  I have two of the standard little commercial brass plunger primers that I use.  Why two?  I seem to run out of prime, so I always have the backup.  I think I am going to take out the screw-in brass finials and put corks in them.  A good idea you have there. 

I have noticed that once I fill the pan, those primers will still dribble a little priming powder.  I long ago decided to shake the primer downward after priming the pan to make sure no powder piles up on me.  I don't think those brass commercial primers are the best design and construction in the world. 

Did you use a commercial valve at the end of your spiral brass one?  Knowing you, you created a better mousetrap made to super standards.   :-) 

Best wishes, and God Bless,   Marc

Offline davec2

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2802
    • The Lucky Bag
Re: Flintlock pan primer
« Reply #12 on: January 14, 2021, 07:16:34 PM »
Thanks for the kind words....

Marc.....no, for once I left well enough alone and just used one of the commercially available plunger priming valves.  It works OK....not very HC, but then again I drive in my Ford Expedition to get to where I shoot..... ;)
"No man will be a sailor who has contrivance enough to get himself into a jail; for being in a ship is being in a jail, with the chance of being drowned... a man in a jail has more room, better food, and commonly better company."
Dr. Samuel Johnson, 1780

Offline wmrike

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 244
Re: Flintlock pan primer
« Reply #13 on: January 14, 2021, 11:10:06 PM »
Skillman - I like it!  What material did you use for the collar on the bamboo?

Offline MuskratMike

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2191
Re: Flintlock pan primer
« Reply #14 on: January 14, 2021, 11:52:40 PM »
Just received my brass & copper one from Jerry Rice (just like the one shown by Bob McBride). Nice prime & will look fine with my Gillespie rifle.
"Muskrat" Mike McGuire
Keep your eyes on the skyline, your flint sharp and powder dry.

Offline skillman

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 996
  • The Usual Suspect
Re: Flintlock pan primer
« Reply #15 on: January 15, 2021, 04:05:39 AM »
wmrike. I used linen thread wrapped around the cane. I saturated it with thin ACC. The plug is a hardwood that my daughter gave me a small piece of The plug is horn. Hope that helps.

Steve
Steve Skillman

Offline wattlebuster

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2046
Re: Flintlock pan primer
« Reply #16 on: January 16, 2021, 01:23:03 AM »
Here is a couple primers I have by Ken Netting
Nothing beats the feel of a handmade southern iron mounted flintlock on a cold frosty morning

Offline acorn20

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 522
Re: Flintlock pan primer
« Reply #17 on: January 20, 2021, 07:14:35 AM »
Here are a couple pics of an antique primer I found today on Facebook.









Dan Akers

Offline Candle Snuffer

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 573
  • Traditional Muzzle Loading, Powder, Patch & Ball
Re: Flintlock pan primer
« Reply #18 on: February 07, 2021, 06:17:04 AM »
One of the antler primers I use, and not hard to make;



Here's another if you prefer to carry it over your shoulder with your horn;

« Last Edit: February 07, 2021, 06:23:52 AM by Candle Snuffer »
Snuffer
Chadron Fur Trade Days

Offline dmdeaton

  • Starting Member
  • *
  • Posts: 17
Re: Flintlock pan primer
« Reply #19 on: February 16, 2021, 03:28:29 AM »
Jerry Rice (Jerry) here on the forum makes these.




How do I get in touch with Jerry to get one of these copper priming horns?
thanks

Offline Bob McBride

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2828
  • TENNESSEE
    • Black Powder TV
Re: Flintlock pan primer
« Reply #20 on: February 16, 2021, 03:42:20 AM »
Jerry Rice (Jerry) here on the forum makes these.




How do I get in touch with Jerry to get one of these copper priming horns?
thanks

PM him here. Click members above. His handle is ‘Jerry’ here on the forum.

Offline recurve

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 564
Re: Flintlock pan primer
« Reply #21 on: February 16, 2021, 05:29:43 PM »