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Offline rich pierce

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Germanic pistol locks?
« on: January 22, 2021, 05:57:53 PM »
Is there anything out there 1750-1780s besides the small Siler?
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Offline ed lundquist

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Re: Germanic pistol locks?
« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2021, 06:22:19 PM »
Rich, I used a Kibler on my last pistol, If is the same size as the Siler. Pan is rounded  and tail is shaped, maybe a weld around the pan and a bit of filing?
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Offline rich pierce

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« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2021, 06:33:00 PM »
Thanks, Ed, so much of the styling is later - cock, pan, frizzen spring, and tail shape - I’m sure it’s a sparker but a mite too much modification for me.
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Re: Germanic pistol locks?
« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2021, 06:34:00 PM »
Stan Hollenbaugh?

Offline Dave B

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Re: Germanic pistol locks?
« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2021, 06:38:09 PM »
 the flat faced Becky can be made to look like a germanic lock by putting flats on the flash pan and some touch up on the plate contour. Just getting one could be a challenge.
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Re: Germanic pistol locks?
« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2021, 08:31:22 PM »
Hi Rich,
I don't know your objectives but not all German locks were flat faced.  There is a wonderful Kuchenreuter pistol in Norman Dixon's book, "Georgian Pistols" with a nice round-faced lock much like Chambers small round-faced English lock.  The only superficial difference is it lacks a pan bridle. 

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Re: Germanic pistol locks?
« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2021, 09:58:37 PM »
Dave, my plan is to make a companion pistol for my .58 early rifle inspired by RCA 40. It will not have the sophistication of the European A. Albrecht pistol in Moravian Gunmaking II which does have a nice round faced lock. I’ve got a smallish, quite fancy Germanic flintlock from castings I got from Ron Scott (I think) but I’d prefer something plainer. Chris Hirsch is working on a Germanic pistol lock but it will be a while.


Ron Scott lock partially assembled. OAL about 4 and 5/8”

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« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2021, 11:25:01 PM »
I'm not sure but I seem to remember that Jack Brooks had a Germanic pistol lock casting set available.  This might work well for you. 

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« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2021, 03:49:41 PM »
Dave, my plan is to make a companion pistol for my .58 early rifle inspired by RCA 40. It will not have the sophistication of the European A. Albrecht pistol in Moravian Gunmaking II which does have a nice round faced lock. I’ve got a smallish, quite fancy Germanic flintlock from castings I got from Ron Scott (I think) but I’d prefer something plainer. Chris Hirsch is working on a Germanic pistol lock but it will be a while.


Ron Scott lock partially assembled. OAL about 4 and 5/8”


I have the parts in stock for the German Pistol lock.   


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« Reply #9 on: May 15, 2021, 12:34:26 AM »
Rich, I got a pair of locks from Stan Hollenbaugh - his "Ditchburn" J. P. Beck lock.  Ideal size for a pistol at 4 3/16" x 3/4".  Great sparker.  Curved lock plate.
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Offline Ted Kramer

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« Reply #10 on: May 15, 2021, 01:32:24 AM »
Check out the castings from www.texasguntrade.com
Click on ‘Antique Gun Parts’ to get to the lock part sets

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Re: Germanic pistol locks?
« Reply #11 on: May 15, 2021, 01:43:48 AM »
Thanks fellas. I’ve got some castings for a slightly larger lock. Waiting on a drilling template.
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