I couldn't get the photos added in. I'll try a different method now. Carney and I drove 1,430 miles in my 2013 Park Avenue Buick Dec.6 through the 9th, got home just as the heavy snow started. Here are some of the Hawkens in Jim Gordon's museum in Glorieta, NM. You can left click twice to enlarge.
Some of the Hawkens are second from left. I think there are four rooms of guns like this. The Modena Hawken, Tom Tobin's Hawken and the Ruxton rifle are some well-known ones on display.
Two of the three known pistol grip Hawkens. I measured the top bore as .570 and the bottom one as .530. The third rifle is in the Cody museum and I measured that bore as .530 actual. I posted about it on this forum.
We went to the Lodge and I checked measurements Phil Meek and Bob took in December,2019. I couldn't make the trip because of a blizzard. Here is the rifle compared to an enlarged photo of it from Jim Gordon's book, with his permission. The photo is exact size, the rifle is closer and looks larger. I had a photo taken of me with the rifle, but the operator failed and didn't get it. Sigh.
Here are Jeff and Carney with mountain man Jim Beckwourth's rifle. He engraved his name on the bottom flat. He was a mulatto who lived with the Crow Indians as a chief. Jeff is preparing an article for publication about this rifle's place in history. He is willing to discuss this rifle with serious students, if you want to contact him, PM me and I'll get that to Jeff. He wants me to make a bench copy of this rifle. I'll have to hand make most of the furniture and have a custom barrel cut.
Me with the rifle.
The rawhide repair on the wrist. (Left-click twice to enlarge).