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Offline Stoner creek

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Facing defeat
« on: January 17, 2023, 08:38:00 PM »
 I had a bad feeling about this project from the start. Everything went down hill from there. Soft wood, worm galleries, and the ramrod hole went wayyyy too far downhill. I’m ok with fixing mistakes but a fellow needs to understand when to and when not to fight the good fight! It’ll make great kindling!
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Offline Robin Henderson

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Re: Facing defeat
« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2023, 09:06:06 PM »
Been there....
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Offline JPK

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Re: Facing defeat
« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2023, 09:13:52 PM »
Good idea.
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Re: Facing defeat
« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2023, 09:15:50 PM »
I know that feeling!
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Offline Frozen Run

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Re: Facing defeat
« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2023, 09:23:46 PM »
Defeat stinks.

Offline Daryl

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Re: Facing defeat
« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2023, 09:28:27 PM »
Ahh - the "makings" of an early take-down rifle.
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Offline Telgan

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Re: Facing defeat
« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2023, 09:42:07 PM »
Where's that wood stove - Wood heat can be some of the most enjoyable

Offline smylee grouch

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Re: Facing defeat
« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2023, 09:52:21 PM »
If its sugar maple I would save it for the smoke house.  ;)

Offline Tim Crosby

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Re: Facing defeat
« Reply #8 on: January 17, 2023, 10:25:52 PM »
 Been there, done that, a good way to put it out of "Your misery" and move on.

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Offline oldtravler61

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Re: Facing defeat
« Reply #9 on: January 17, 2023, 11:20:05 PM »
   Wayne yeah it happens,... To some of us way to often....which means me....lol

Offline Scota4570

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Re: Facing defeat
« Reply #10 on: January 17, 2023, 11:54:58 PM »
I did that to a very nice piece of maple a while back.  It was the second consecutive junk precarve. I put a lot of time in it  and could not stand the idea of scrapping nice, and expensive, wood. It made me upset when I looked at it.  Finally, I got up the courage and  band sawed it then threw it away.  I am glad it is gone. 

 I started again, from a plank, and made a very nice rifle without any problems. 

Offline mgbruch

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Re: Facing defeat
« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2023, 12:05:59 AM »
Been there as well.  Through the years I've re-stocked two guns, because they didn't turn out well.  And I won't sell a gun I wouldn't own.

Offline ed lundquist

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Re: Facing defeat
« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2023, 12:57:50 AM »
Can't convince myself to work on questionable wood anymore, It never ends well. No worms, no spalt, no knots, only good hard stuff. The job is hard enough, life is too short to work bad wood. If you won't work it yourself don't sell it to me. Good times on the new stock Stoner.

Offline LilysDad

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Re: Facing defeat
« Reply #13 on: January 18, 2023, 01:15:09 AM »
Wait! Can't you send it back???  :-\

Offline Eric Krewson

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Re: Facing defeat
« Reply #14 on: January 18, 2023, 01:24:41 AM »
I put a year into saving that pre-carve I showed you at the Bama Kentucky rifle show, never again, I learned my lesson.

Offline WKevinD

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Re: Facing defeat
« Reply #15 on: January 18, 2023, 03:08:20 AM »
hate when that happens.
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Re: Facing defeat
« Reply #16 on: January 18, 2023, 05:49:01 AM »
It’s a bummer when that happens………been there in a similar way………..I have a plastic waste can in my shop that all the scraps and cut offs of any size go into.  Don’t throw those away……some good may come from them yet.  Never can tell when you’ll need that one piece to make some little “whatsit”  or small fill-in. Or handle for a special tool.
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Offline Fly Navy

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Re: Facing defeat
« Reply #17 on: January 18, 2023, 08:21:10 AM »
Bummer, just figure the next one will be much better anyway.

Offline alacran

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Re: Facing defeat
« Reply #18 on: January 18, 2023, 02:37:47 PM »
From the chunks you got ready for the stove, it appears that this was not a pre-carve. Just wondering why you would inlet the lock. After all the ramrod channel went to Tennessee.
Learned a long time ago to first inlet the barrel. Then do the ramrod channel and drill the ramrod hole. If all that goes well, then inlet the barrel tang and go on from there.
Why waste work on something that is already trash? Learned this the hard way too.
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Offline Marcruger

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Re: Facing defeat
« Reply #19 on: January 18, 2023, 03:37:09 PM »
I am so with you brother.  I agree with your decision.  If the raw materials aren’t good, they are not worth your time and labor. I know you have a finished gun goal in mind, so if the wood isn’t up to it, dust the sawdust off your boots and walk away.

In my world I know what I want to create.  I am not wondering, “Gee, I wonder what I can make out of this old sock?” The labor is the hard part. I have worked with some bad leather. There is at least a whole cow worth of leather scraps where either the leather was not up to the task or I screwed up.

Thank you for the great post Wayne.

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Offline thecapgunkid

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Re: Facing defeat
« Reply #20 on: January 18, 2023, 03:55:07 PM »
ed lundquist...Can't convince myself to work on questionable wood anymore,

dead on.  I am working at a snails pace on the hardest piece of Maple I've ever seen.  Dreading my first soft spot.  Should have sent it back.  If I had the right tools and machinery I'd never buy a pre-carve again...even the partials...

Offline Top Jaw

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Re: Facing defeat
« Reply #21 on: January 18, 2023, 04:33:55 PM »
It’s not defeat exactly.  It’s wisdom. 
You got to know when to hold’em….
And know when to fold’em - as they say.
And some things need folded (or sawed up) and moved on from!

Online Daniel Coats

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Re: Facing defeat
« Reply #22 on: January 18, 2023, 05:04:02 PM »
Thanks for posting this Wayne. If a project like that didn't end badly it wouldn't end.
Dan

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Offline Bob Gerard

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Re: Facing defeat
« Reply #23 on: January 18, 2023, 05:05:43 PM »
Choose your battles, as they say.

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Re: Facing defeat
« Reply #24 on: January 18, 2023, 05:18:08 PM »
If I run out of parts someday I’m going to re-stock some builds I’ve had a long time just to keep it fresh.

I think you made the good call there. For those of us who are in it for the fun, there’s no sense trudging through a muddy field.
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