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Offline David R. Pennington

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Flintlock Survival Rifle
« on: June 11, 2024, 07:38:00 PM »
I had this idea about building a flintlock survival rifle. Any one else ever considered that notion? I have an old CVA kit gun I could sacrifice barrel from or even an old octagon barrel from a rifle I have that’s chambered for an obsolete rimfire cartridge. Nothing following any historical style, just a small light utilitarian gun. Maybe even fix stock so it could break down to pack.
The flintlock would be the perfect survival weapon. All you would need is a mold, some lead and a little powder. If ammunition and caps were hard to get you can always find a rock.
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Offline Craig Wilcox

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Re: Flintlock Survival Rifle
« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2024, 07:40:47 PM »
Perhaps a small amount of powder and ball in a "patch box"?
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Re: Flintlock Survival Rifle
« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2024, 08:15:09 PM »
That is how I think of a NorthWest trade gun that's been  shortened. Anything from 28 bore or larger.
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Re: Flintlock Survival Rifle
« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2024, 08:44:49 PM »
Survival gun is the one you have with you when it’s needed, a special made for the purpose one is most likely not with you.
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Offline Joe S.

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Re: Flintlock Survival Rifle
« Reply #4 on: June 11, 2024, 09:55:49 PM »
When I think of the guns, pistols built here, pretty sure, historically,  they all where survival guns back then. If we talking nowadays, it certainly wouldn't be a muzzleloader.

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Re: Flintlock Survival Rifle
« Reply #5 on: Today at 12:20:56 AM »
There are some American flintlock rifles, particularly some from New England, that had hooked breeches and the forends had a joint so the barrel and most of the forend could be removed allowing the rifle to be more easily stowed. There are also muzzleloaders with hinged wrists that allow the gun to fold at to be stored. Something like that might make a nice "pack rifle."
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Re: Flintlock Survival Rifle
« Reply #6 on: Today at 01:48:43 AM »
Look up muzzleloader poacher guns.There some ingenious designs of poacher guns some with butt stocks that takedown others with hollowed out stocks and screw off barrels like the screw barrel pistols etc

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Offline David R. Pennington

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Re: Flintlock Survival Rifle
« Reply #7 on: Today at 02:01:47 AM »
Joe S., I think you missed my point. In survival gun I meant one that could be relied on if society totally collapsed to the point modern ammunition no longer available. Just conjecture on my part. Wasn’t very long ago we had “supply chain issues” and certain things were hard to come by.
Just thinking out loud.
I like the image shared of poacher’s gun. Could come a time when we would be forced to poach the state’s game to feed hungry mouths.
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Re: Flintlock Survival Rifle
« Reply #8 on: Today at 06:25:46 PM »
 My idea of a survival gun would be a 24 gauge trade gun, with a thirty inch barrel, and a good large flintlock. That would shoot shot,and a round ball, along with a .58 cal. Mini. It would weigh about six pounds and have enough options to allow you to hunt almost anything.

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Offline Philip A.

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Re: Flintlock Survival Rifle
« Reply #9 on: Today at 08:30:07 PM »
Joe S., I think you missed my point. In survival gun I meant one that could be relied on if society totally collapsed to the point modern ammunition no longer available. Just conjecture on my part. Wasn’t very long ago we had “supply chain issues” and certain things were hard to come by.
Just thinking out loud.
I like the image shared of poacher’s gun. Could come a time when we would be forced to poach the state’s game to feed hungry mouths.

You're absolutely right in your thinking. Having lived for decades in places that are just what the average American imagines when he says "SHTF", i.e. power grid inexistent or collapsed, empty fuel stations but thriving black market, bands of armed miscreants roaming the countryside, undrinkable water, close to zero healthcare available, limited supply of drugs, and so on, I can tell you that: 1.) It's not as bad as one could think, and by far (unless you are in an area of open war or genocide, of course...), 2.) One gets used to it quite rapidly, and 3.) Forget about finding ammo, unless you pick it from the enemy or from friendlies, and that's not hunting ammo. There won't be any spares either.

In this context, a flintlock rifle makes perfect sense: you don't depend on anyone for your supply of ammunition, and can feed yourself off the land. If you have any mechanical skills at all, even rough, you'll be able to keep that piece going as long as you live.

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