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Offline Jerry

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« on: September 27, 2020, 06:34:55 PM »
 Two steel chargers,  3 3/4” length.




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« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2020, 07:57:09 PM »
Jerry,

What’s a charger?  First time I’ve seen one.
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Offline Jerry

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« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2020, 08:34:11 PM »
Mike, They were made to carry shot in one end and powder in the other. Can carry powder in each end. As far as the history of chargers of this type, James Rogers could add more historical information than I. Jerry
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« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2020, 08:46:48 PM »
Carry shot in one side and powder in the other.
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« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2020, 09:25:00 PM »
 Since Jerry mentioned me I will say these type of chargers are a favorite with me for hunting with a fowling piece.
Nice and compact and you just need wadding.
There is a 1772 Maryland record documenting the order of two fowling pieces from London and each was to be supplied with ........"6 Steel spring charges for do each to contain in each charger a load of powder & shot & no
more of each than the proper load of the gun."
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« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2020, 09:41:20 PM »
Thanks James! I knew your addition would add historical significance to the chargers. Thanks, Jerry
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« Reply #6 on: September 28, 2020, 03:12:45 PM »
 The real question is: how the heck do they work?

   Tim
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« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2020, 04:14:07 PM »
Tim,
Each end has a spring loaded cover. The spring is down one side of the body of the charger and is common to both ends. Can send some pics if you want.
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« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2020, 05:22:46 PM »
Tim,
Each end has a spring loaded cover. The spring is down one side of the body of the charger and is common to both ends. Can send some pics if you want.

  Still not getting it, how about posting some Pix in "Accouterments".

   Thanks, Tim
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« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2020, 05:25:29 PM »
Will post a video later today.
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« Reply #10 on: September 28, 2020, 05:40:20 PM »
 the have an internal devider that separates the shot from the powder. Like a back packers salt and pepper container
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« Reply #11 on: September 28, 2020, 06:46:08 PM »
No video. Hope these pictures will explain the external lid spring, hinge pin, and lid.











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« Reply #12 on: September 28, 2020, 06:56:06 PM »
Thanks Jerry, racked my brain trying to figure them out. Simple once you show the hinge and how it works
Thanks
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« Reply #13 on: September 28, 2020, 07:01:38 PM »
Thanks Jerry.  Very neat.
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« Reply #14 on: September 29, 2020, 04:01:51 PM »
Chargers are new to me. Yours are very nice!!!!!
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Re: Chargers
« Reply #15 on: September 29, 2020, 05:37:57 PM »
Not to steal anyone's thunder but Mike Lea usually has a few available.
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« Reply #16 on: September 29, 2020, 08:31:56 PM »
Not to steal anyone's thunder but Mike Lea usually has a few available.

Does Mike have these double-ended, spring lid types of chargers?
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« Reply #17 on: September 30, 2020, 03:13:05 AM »
Does anyone know how these are made (i.e. the body with a taper in both directions) ??  Would love to make a few but would want to know how they were originally done before i waste a lot of time trying to figure it out for myself... :o
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« Reply #18 on: September 30, 2020, 03:26:43 PM »
Does anyone know how these are made (i.e. the body with a taper in both directions) ??  Would love to make a few but would want to know how they were originally done before i waste a lot of time trying to figure it out for myself... :o

 Come on Dave, it's only like doing Algebra without and equation :) Although I have the same question but am used to working in the dark or with trial and error.

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« Reply #19 on: September 30, 2020, 04:13:03 PM »
V nice (And fiddly to make!) shot charger Jerry.

Blokes, these were made for shot only, to charge a double barrel.  A few could be carried in a pocket with a different size shot to that in your shot flask.

Here's one or two of my old originals;








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« Reply #20 on: September 30, 2020, 11:46:00 PM »
I've been intrigued by these for some time and have been collecting images with the hope of make some.  These chargers all seem to be of English origin.  Here are some of the various types I've found.





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« Reply #21 on: October 01, 2020, 04:40:23 PM »
Rich,
Can't say for sure but Mike usually has some available.
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« Reply #22 on: October 02, 2020, 03:05:14 AM »
Now THAT makes perfect sense, Richard. Thanks.
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« Reply #23 on: October 02, 2020, 05:48:28 AM »
Dennis, thanks for those pictures.  Any photos of the hinges would be great.
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« Reply #24 on: October 02, 2020, 06:04:29 AM »
Dang I like them. Be nice to have for upland bird hunting