AmericanLongRifles Forums
Welcome,
Guest
. Please
login
or
register
.
1 Hour
1 Day
1 Week
1 Month
Forever
Login with username, password and session length
News:
Home
Help
Login
Register
AmericanLongRifles Forums
»
General discussion
»
Gun Building
»
Bucks Ccounty LRs ......popular?
« previous
next »
Print
Pages: [
1
]
Go Down
Author
Topic: Bucks Ccounty LRs ......popular? (Read 1412 times)
flehto
Hero Member
Posts: 3335
Bucks Ccounty LRs ......popular?
«
on:
June 25, 2022, 08:35:40 PM »
Although Bucks County LRs were made in a relatively short time span in history and being that some of the early BCs were hardly recognized as BCs, the BC LR mainly because of being a very slender rifle, is a popular build nowadays. Knob Mountain has a BC Bplate and TG that weren't available when I made my BCs {wish they were}, but the one BC component that has to be made today is the elongated finial RR entry pipe and many recent BC builds lack this component.
I've built a few styles of LRs {Lancasters, Virginas and a few others including some Hawkens}, but my favorite builds were always the BCs and a few are shown below and some show that my BCs early on didn't have all the BC features because of my ignorance {this info was not widely available}.
W/in the BC styled LRs , the stock architecture varied and because I liked the slightly curved combline and toeline, I built in the style of John Shuler who was a later BC builder as opposed to Andrew Verner who was earlier and made some of his BCs w/ a straight combline like the Lancasters {the Verner kit is mainly the BC kit offered by most suppliers}.
The earlier Bc builds ate the top photos and the later BC builds are at the bottom. One last note....my carving isn't in the incised BC style...have my personal reasons for straying. Most of my BCs have Rice "B" weight X 46" bbls in .50 cal.
If photos of a particular area or item is wanted, let me know.....Fred
«
Last Edit: June 25, 2022, 10:10:42 PM by flehto
»
Logged
yip
Hero Member
Posts: 1050
Re: Bucks Ccounty LRs ......popular?
«
Reply #1 on:
June 25, 2022, 10:02:31 PM »
Fred; you built some really fine looking rifles and i hope to build this new rifle a near as i can to yours. but things are going a little rough but i'm trying. i'm have diffculty with the entry thimble and sitting in a chair i loose a lot of perpective.
i hope to send you a few pics of my work soon for you to go over and ream me out
Logged
bnewberry
Jr. Member
Posts: 98
Re: Bucks Ccounty LRs ......popular?
«
Reply #2 on:
June 26, 2022, 12:35:28 AM »
I am relatively new to muzzleloaders and am just learning about different design”schools”. This is one with which I am not familiar. I like the elegance of the sweeping curve on it. Your carving is very nice as well!
Logged
DavidC
Sr. Member
Posts: 355
Re: Bucks Ccounty LRs ......popular?
«
Reply #3 on:
June 26, 2022, 03:25:01 AM »
I like that first rifle (are the first two images from the same gun?) but boy does that toe look so delicate! I imagine you'd want to get the toeplate on that guy as soon as possible.
Logged
Ken G
Hero Member
Posts: 5526
F & AM #758
Re: Bucks Ccounty LRs ......popular?
«
Reply #4 on:
June 26, 2022, 03:34:36 AM »
Beautiful work Fred. Love the bottom one.
Ken
Logged
Failure only comes when you stop trying.
FALout
Hero Member
Posts: 875
Re: Bucks Ccounty LRs ......popular?
«
Reply #5 on:
June 26, 2022, 03:59:49 AM »
I’ve often thought about building one, but am intimidated by the rear pipe. I think you had a post on how to do that. Your builds definitely set a high standard on how they should be built.
Logged
Bob
HighUintas
Sr. Member
Posts: 492
Re: Bucks Ccounty LRs ......popular?
«
Reply #6 on:
June 26, 2022, 04:34:36 AM »
What is the typical length and bore size of early and late bucks county rifles?
Logged
JEH
Jr. Member
Posts: 91
Re: Bucks Ccounty LRs ......popular?
«
Reply #7 on:
June 26, 2022, 05:07:56 AM »
I liked the bottom one also. It has lived in my stable of long guns since last fall. 46 inch B weight 50 cal. Long lean and slender. Fred does some outstanding work. In our conversation I took it this was his last one. If thats the case I'm proud to be the caretaker of it for now.
Logged
alacran
Hero Member
Posts: 2259
Re: Bucks Ccounty LRs ......popular?
«
Reply #8 on:
June 26, 2022, 02:09:35 PM »
Fred, I have always liked your work.
There are things that modern builders can do to personalize a BC rifle such as the relief carving on your rifles.
However, there are certain things that differentiate a BC rifle from others. The side opening patch box and oversize finial on the entry pipe as well as the curved toe line to name the most salient features, but there are more.
The fleur de Lis ending of the lock panels, double incised molding forward of the lock panels as well as the thumbnail finials on the butt plate and the trigger guard.
It also has an interesting patch box release which you made me aware of. I could not discern that feature in the BC photos in RCA #1.
To me the Bucs County guns are most appealing.
Logged
A man's rights rest in three boxes: the ballot box, the jury box, and the cartridge box. Frederick Douglass
flehto
Hero Member
Posts: 3335
Re: Bucks Ccounty LRs ......popular?
«
Reply #9 on:
June 27, 2022, 01:26:54 AM »
The first 2 pics are of different BCs,,,the first might be one of my earliest BCs and the 2nd down is a much later build...saw an original BC side opener w/ side plates so I made one. All my BCs were from blanks and are modeled after John Shuler. Never made a Verner because of the straight combline but many builders did and do so.
YIP....applaud your perseverance building BCs the way you do.
The BC mentioned by JEH was my last build because of failing eyesight and not building leaves a big gap in my daily routine. Thanks to all for looking.....Fred
Logged
Print
Pages: [
1
]
Go Up
« previous
next »
AmericanLongRifles Forums
»
General discussion
»
Gun Building
»
Bucks Ccounty LRs ......popular?