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Gun Building / Re: Davis locks
« Last post by smart dog on Today at 02:31:31 AM »
Hi Barry,
Here is what I did to an M&G Albrecht lock that was not up to par.  Keep in mind, I was remaking it to match the Edward Marshall rifle, but it was a mediocre lock to begin with.

Keep in mind, most locks can be made into very fine locks.  It is just that some require a lot more work. 


Gun Building / Re: Need advice. English half stock percussion or...?
« Last post by T*O*F on Today at 02:25:57 AM »
Davis no longer makes drip bars.

They are castings.  The Log Cabin Shop now owns Davis.  Check with them.  Also, Rod England has them.

is the L&R drip bar easily modifiable to be compatible to a 1 1/8 barrel?
The L&R is also a casting and is flat on the back and not V shaped to fit around the side oblique.  I suppose fit would depend on the breechplug used.
Gun Building / Re: tung oil
« Last post by smart dog on Today at 02:18:44 AM »
Hi Rich,
Old Master's tung oil varnish contains up to 40% linseed oil and only 5% tung oil.  I suspect it is essentially like mixing a little tung oil with Tru-Oil.  Tru-Oil is linseed oil that was heat treated (polymerized) to speed drying and then mixed with solvents.  I suspect it would be fine finish for a gun stock.  I have used Sutherland-Welles polymerized tung oil in low and medium sheen for a very long time and it is my favorite finish because I can duplicate the appearance of almost any original finish by using it in different ways.  Let me emphasize before somebody inevitably posts, "well I used tung oil and it took forever to dry", polymerized tung oil dries well in less than 24 hours and to the touch in 4-6.  It is not the tung oil product those folks were complaining about.  During my years living on Revillagigedo Island in SE Alaska, I could not easily get polymerized tung oil because of the solvents, which forced it to be shipped by barge rather than air and the hazmat cost was high.  So I formulated a very, very good alternative.  I could get raw tung oil easily because it did not contain any solvents and I could buy polyurethane varnish from the local hardware store.  I added (by volume) 25% tung oil, 25% polyurethane, and 50% mineral spirits or turpentine. This was a very high quality finish and it stood up to the harsh conditions of >150" of rain a year and salt water spray from the guns being carried in boats.  It just needs to be applied carefully to avoid a brittle or glossy sheen.  You simply apply it with a brush or rag, let it sit for 10-15 minutes, and then wipe off all excess completely.  Make sure to get into the corners.  Here are guns finished with that formula.  Notice some have a gloss and others are satin at best.  All can be achieved.

A mix of Old Master's Tung Oil (not tung oil varnish) with polyurethane as I described might be a very good finish.

Gun Building / Re: Davis locks
« Last post by borderdogs on Today at 02:17:07 AM »
I have bought 3 late Kentland Chamber's locks from various sellers here which I have planned projects for each. I have used Davis, L & R, and they are good but I think the Chambers locks are very good. I have no experience with Kibler locks
Gun Building / Re: Davis locks
« Last post by Frank on Today at 02:07:58 AM »
Jim Chambers and Jim Kibler locks for me. Superior workmanship and quality control.
Antique Accoutrements / Re: Powderhorn: Authentic antique?
« Last post by Hungry Horse on Today at 02:03:29 AM »
I think this horn was decorate with a wood burning iron. The lines are too wide. Also, there are a lot of lines about the length of the narrowest tip on a wood burning tool. The colorant looks more like paint than ink, and fills the cuts more.

 Hungry Horse
I have 10 more boxes, but sadly none this style.
Antique Gun Collecting / Re: Sotheby's Auction
« Last post by Buck on Today at 01:44:44 AM »
Dick - I agree, there are many pieces that would appear to be collaborative. This example is one of the finest specimens of both Smiths work - a barn burner if I may quote you.

VP - Great information, the info regarding his father is new to me. My take is that he was a machine - excellent craftsman and it's apparent in his early works and the volume of work that remains in existence. That said, his business and finance abilities do not appear to match his skills as a craftsman. This is something I've seen all too often in the trades, and this mans story appears to have the same hallmarks.

Just my 2 cents.


Gun Building / Re: Kibler 58 Colonial
« Last post by Rwnblack on Today at 01:44:24 AM »
I took it to the range today, really nice rifle. I think I will make a peep sight for it similar to the one on my SMR.  Surprisingly little recoil for a 58.
Items for Sale/Wanted / Re: Curly maple gunstocks
« Last post by AMartin on Today at 01:41:30 AM »
I do have cherry ... I'll drop you a pm
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