Author Topic: Bucks County (Read 15306 times)

yip · « **Reply #50 on:** August 24, 2018, 02:50:40 PM »

VP; i ordered the dvd tthis morning, thanks for the input hope to do a good job on this next build.

Mike Brooks · « **Reply #51 on:** August 24, 2018, 03:35:43 PM »

Quote from: yip on August 24, 2018, 02:50:40 PM

VP; i ordered the dvd tthis morning, thanks for the input hope to do a good job on this next build.

That dvd is going to knock your socks off.

yip · « **Reply #52 on:** August 24, 2018, 05:18:41 PM »

i hope, thats why i wear boots!

alacran · « **Reply #53 on:** August 30, 2018, 11:24:18 AM »

I made this interpretation of a Bucks County rifle mostly from the few pictures that are available. RCA, Kindigs book and a couple others. I scaled out the " unknown" gun in Shumways RCA, to the best of my abilities. I started with a blank Troy Sweeney gave me for some help. The wood had a few issues but I was determined to make it work.

I made all the furniture excepting the trigger guard. It is a Reeves Goring Schuler TG.
I made this 3 years ago and has seen some hunts and Rendesvous. Unlike most of the BC guns in the Books this one has a .54 rifled barrel.

flehto · « **Reply #54 on:** August 30, 2018, 12:52:34 PM »

That's a really nice Bucks County LR....has all the features too. A couple of my early BC builds also had .54 swamped bbls {C weight from Rice} and if done right, can still be slim.

Used Goehring's # 47 TG which actually was a Verner and had to file the thumbnails fore and aft. Didn't know that he had a Shuler TG. Can't tell if the Pbox lid release rod is under the toeplate?

Nice job on the entry pipe....that can be a deterrent in making a BC LR because it can't be bought. Your sideplate is nicely done and resembles those of Verner.

The Bplate I mainly used came from Dru Hedgecock and is virtually the same as those used by Shuler....Dru is retired and can't find that particular Bplate at any other supplier.

The top BC shown below is my 3rd attempt of a BC LR and is a .54. The bottom pic has the Bplate that I used on most of the BC builds and resembles a Shuler BPlate.

Again ....thanks for posting a beautiful BC LR......Fred

yip · « **Reply #55 on:** August 30, 2018, 02:35:29 PM »

Alacran,and Fred: beautiful rifles i hope to start soon as soon as Rice comes through,great looking rifles!!!!!!!!!!!

Mike Brooks · « **Reply #56 on:** August 30, 2018, 03:07:00 PM »

Quote from: yip on August 30, 2018, 02:35:29 PM

Alacran,and Fred: beautiful rifles i hope to start soon as soon as Rice comes through,great looking rifles!!!!!!!!!!!

All those pics above should give you some great inspiration. They sure are great rifles.

yip · « **Reply #57 on:** August 30, 2018, 03:16:18 PM »

what is the basic caliber for a B/C? i ordered a 40 from RICE i hope this is gonna be right h/c

Mike Brooks · « **Reply #58 on:** August 30, 2018, 03:18:43 PM »

Quote from: yip on August 30, 2018, 03:16:18 PM

what is the basic caliber for a B/C? i ordered a 40 from RICE i hope this is gonna be right h/c

I'd have to look in my Shumway RCA Volumes to find out for you.....

yip · « **Reply #59 on:** August 30, 2018, 03:40:00 PM »

Mike looked it up in my RCA and Verner showing a 46 caliber, Shuler shows a 52, maybe i'll call Jason at Rice, Fred what do ya think?

flehto · « **Reply #60 on:** August 30, 2018, 03:51:51 PM »

Eric....surely would appreciate any info on Weiker. Here's my e-mail address...
fklehto@charter.net Thanks.....Fred

flehto · « **Reply #61 on:** August 30, 2018, 03:55:54 PM »

YIP....all of my later BCs have a Rice "B" weight swamped bbl that's 46" long and in .50 cal. .....Fred

alacran · « **Reply #62 on:** August 30, 2018, 03:57:26 PM »

Thanks for the compliments Fred. I really like Bucks County rifles. I hope to make another one soon.
On this gun the patch box release protrudes through the toe plate. It also has a standing breech I copied from Verner's gun.
I pounded the BP out of a 1/4 inch piece of brass . Had to keep putting it back in the stove to keep it annealed. Next one I make I'll start with 1/8th inch brass.

alacran · « **Reply #63 on:** August 30, 2018, 04:12:36 PM »

Yip thanks for the compliment.
I forgot to mention. Jason at Rice is making a BC profile barrel. I believe Jason told me that the .50 cal. comes in at 4 lbs. You should be able to make a fairly light gun with that. Was going to pick one up at Friendship, but I am really backed up with projects.

yip · « **Reply #64 on:** August 30, 2018, 04:39:58 PM »

Alacran and Fred; called Jason at Rice and changed my order to a "b" Bucks County profile 44" long round rifling, again 3 month turnaround. hope all goes right

elkhorne · « **Reply #65 on:** August 31, 2018, 06:34:12 AM »

alacran and flehto,
TOW has a BC buttplate that is, I believe, is BP 22. Would that work for the buttplate like you, Fred, said you use to get from Dru Hedgcock. Or, alacran would that work for the one you made if out of 1/8 thick brass. I really like the graceful contour of that sweeping buttplate.

flehto · « **Reply #66 on:** August 31, 2018, 02:50:35 PM »

elkhorne....have used TOW's BP-22 and it's shown in a previous post on p3 ...just scroll back until you come to the first pics of 2 buttstocks. It's the top pic and the bottom pic is the one from Hedgecock which I prefer and no longer can locate.

Actually the BPlate from Hedgecock req'd some work to duplicate the Bplate used by Shuler....The return was faceted as cast and had to be filed round and the thumbnail had to be filed in and 2 lines had to be cut in. The top pic is a Shuler original and the bottom pic is one of my builds. ....Fred

yip · « **Reply #67 on:** August 31, 2018, 03:06:09 PM »

that's a great looking b/p.

yip · « **Reply #68 on:** August 31, 2018, 03:24:53 PM »

trying to locate a b/p for a B/C rifle, the only one i see is from TOTW but has facits and a squared off comb can this be filed to my liking? i like the one Fred has

yip · « **Reply #69 on:** August 31, 2018, 04:26:22 PM »

Spinner; tryed to locate his web could not hide him

flehto · « **Reply #70 on:** August 31, 2018, 04:26:49 PM »

Hi....I've always used Reeves' # 47 TG which was actually a Verner style and had to have the thumbnails filed on and also the finial facets had to be changed , but could never see his BC Bplate because it was always "out of stock". The modified Verner TG { the one used w/ his "masterpiece" BC LR } is shown below.

Reeves' BC Bplate could possibly be available from his daughter who has continued the business. If it also is a Verner, it might also be the one from his "masterpiece" LR which looks a lot like a Lancaster Bplate. I don't know his daughter's tel, no. If she has the Shuler style TG and Bplate, these might be closer to what I used. ....Fred

rmcgowan · « **Reply #71 on:** August 31, 2018, 05:05:13 PM »

Dave Keck at Knob Mountain offered a bucks(Shuler I believe) bplate and trigger guard .

Bob

flehto · « **Reply #72 on:** August 31, 2018, 05:55:03 PM »

I think I've found the Bplate that I formerly bought from Hedgecock....TOW #BP-K-3-B. TOW states that it's an early Bethlehem, but the dims and looks all match what I've been using on my BC builds. As I said...it requires eliminating the return facets and rounding them off and filing in a thumbnail. It's a quality sand casting and the cost is $17.99. The problem is that it's back ordered. Perhaps if enough builders ordered one or two, the foundry might produce a few.....Fred

Lucky R A · « **Reply #73 on:** August 31, 2018, 07:18:05 PM »

Dave Keck, supplies basically the same Shuler "thumbnail" butt plate and trigger guard as used by John Shuler while he worked in Bucks Co. His castings are very close to those that Reves Goehring used to supply. Dave's castings have little extra material to be removed and are easily cleaned up for usage. Verner did not use the thumbnail design on either of his signed works.. At one time Reaves had several Shuler butt plates including one w/ a rounded bottom that was used on a fowler... There are a number of near bench copies of Bucks Co. rifles on my web site. "Spinner" above supplied a lot of the research that went into these rifles. Ron

flehto · « **Reply #74 on:** August 31, 2018, 07:26:18 PM »

Thanks for your important info on BC TGs and Bplates. How do I get to your website....and what is Dave Keck's website contact info.

Just looked at Knob Mountain and didn't find any BC components......Fred

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Author Topic: Bucks County (Read 15306 times)